How to hide .a5w

[JetLi]

Is there a way to hide .a5w in tha address bar? I dont want my clients to know i have done the app in alpha. Is there a way to change it?

[lgrupido]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

I do not believe so.

You could experiment with creating blank html pages and putting the a5w pages inside them as includes.

I have never tried it and I'm not sure how Alpha would handle that.

But please let me know how it works out if you do try it!

Also, you MAY be able to do something like that if you use Alpha with IIS - but that would be a feature inherited from IIS, not from Alpha.

[peteconway]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

Just go to your AA Server and make this change to the served pages
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copy your filename.a5w pages to filename.html check the security setting are the same publish them then restart the AA Server.
Should work as normal

[Davidk]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

Nice

[JetLi]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

Just go to your AA Server and make this change to the served pages
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copy your filename.a5w pages to filename.html check the security setting are the same publish them then restart the AA Server.
Should work as normal

You mean rename the extension name to .html on the development machine before publishing? so for index.a5w, I will rename it to index.html?

[peteconway]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

Yes or make a copy or rename it.

[JetLi]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

Thanks very much I'll try .

[kkfin]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

I am sure that this (replace a5w extension to html in server) will not work in practise. If I remember right for example when redirecting you have to have .a5w extension.

And why would you want to hide that you have made your software with Alpha. As we all know the price for Alpha developer + server is soon 4999 per year so why hide Enterprise level software.

But if you would like to hide .a5w extension then it is just question of design but difficult to achieve using Alpha.

Almost all web platforms today use mvc design and url rewriting. But Alpha does not directly support this kind of design model. But you can use for example js frameworkd like Angular which has routing built in. Using Angular routing your url is then format like yourdomain.com/#/login. But as I mentioned .a5w is hardcoded to Alpha so you will face this fact in practise when routing. You also need to use reverse proxy when url rewriting with AA classic server.

Other way is just use html5 and ajax in frontend.

Also notice that you can use (against Alphas normal practise) folders to hide a5w extension in request url . So if you have detail folder under root then url http://yourdomain/detail will work if you have index page in that folder (again classic server)

[Davidk]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

I'd say it depends upon what needs to be accomplished.

But... if you're referring specifically to Security, then I'd give it a try, Kenneth... and then report back. Web Security allows the selection of a .html page for redirection.

No reason to hide the .a5w extension... and renaming an a5w page to html is anything but difficult.

Try what Pete suggests and you'll find that it works.

[kkfin]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

I'd say it depends upon what needs to be accomplished.

But... if you're referring specifically to Security, then I'd give it a try, Kenneth... and then report back. Web Security allows the selection of a .html page for redirection.

No reason to hide the .a5w extension... and renaming an a5w page to html is anything but difficult.

Try what Pete suggests and you'll find that it works.

I am still sure it does not work in practise.

What comes to not use .a5w but .html page I think it is common practise for example in mobile apps in fact there is no need to use server side code in client side today.

[GGandhi]

Re: Hiw to hude .a5w

it is common knowledge that alpha web server will serve html pages without any problem and as well as a5w page ( .htm, .html & .a5w extensions), but any server will not serve a5w page. all alpha server does is to translate the alpha code to html compatible code and supplies to the browser, since it is aware of xbasic syntax. i do not know why alpha has selected to provide two extension end points like .htm and .a5w in document creation if it is so simple. it is possible that the extension will trigger where the code will go. there must be something significant, i do not know, at least not yet.

edit:
for curiosity
> i edited my tabbed ui page and saved as htm page it did not display properly.
> i duplicated my tabbedui page but saved as html page - it did not display correctly.
edit2:
same thing with any grid placed in a5w page.

[Davidk]

Re: How to hide .a5w

I am still sure it does not work in practise.

But you can't be sure... because you haven't tried it. I have, and, in practice... it does work. So... are you just guessing?

What comes to not use .a5w but .html page I think it is common practise for example in mobile apps in fact there is no need to use server side code in client side today.

Not quite sure what this means... however... since there is no way to actually use server side code at the client level... I'm not sure why you think this could be a choice.

[kkfin]

Re: How to hide .a5w

But you can't be sure... because you haven't tried it. I have, and, in practice... it does work. So... are you just guessing?



Not quite sure what this means... however... since there is no way to actually use server side code at the client level... I'm not sure why you think this could be a choice.

In fact I have tried it. It is so old feature so many many years ago. But do not anymore remember what went wrong. But I do remember that Lenny (or was it Lenny :)) did warn using that feature. But who cares anymore. We have your opinion.


To use server side code in client side... You do not understand. Maybe I did use too few sentences to explain. If you use serverside code to run that code you need server and then your page has to be for example mypage.a5w but if you do not use serverside code then your page name can be mypage.html. The difference is that when using serverside code server really access page but if you not use serveside code then server just loads page to the client without any access to the page.

So to output tiltle using serverside code page name is mypage.a5w

<tiltle><%a5  ?title %></title>

and not using serverside code page name is mypage.html

<titile>{{title}}</title>

Both has exactly same output and David your are right you can not run serverside code in client side and I am sure that is what you did undertand me trying to say. But i am sure that you understand that when building mobile apps you can not use serverside code in clientside (now David read again above what I mean).

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to hide .a5w

Try putting your app inside an iframe where the main page holding the iframe is SomeWebPage.html

[GGandhi]

Re: How to hide .a5w

when alpha server encounters <%a5 it grabs the code till it sees %>, then translate everything in between to common html code. if it does not see that segment it simply passes the code to the browser. so the server and as far as i am concerned .a5w extension is needed for alpha server to deploy the content properly. ( sure alpha can display plain vanilla a5w page without any code either with htm or a5w extension)
i do not know how iframe will work when the code is not understandable to anybody but alpha server.