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  • Some passwords visible with notepad

    When I use the export function for groups/users/passwords in the security process, I end up with a file that can be read by notepad. As you can see some of the users passwords are encrypted & not readable while some can be read which does create a security problem. What can I do to fix so NONE are readable. Thanks.

    passwords visible in notepad.jpg

  • #2
    Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

    Try changing the "sys" to something longer.
    See our Hybrid Option here;
    https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


    In fairness to alcohol, I have done some stupid things when I was sober too!

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    • #3
      Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

      Tried but it did not change anything, FYI, all the passwords in the above were SYS. as you can see some show & some don't. Kinda a security problem if unauthorized users can view a gaggle of passwords with notepad.

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      • #4
        Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

        Look at the password line.
        The common denominator is a missing odd char.
        How that gets there, I have no idea.
        Can you encrypt the passwords somehow?
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        In fairness to alcohol, I have done some stupid things when I was sober too!

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        • #5
          Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

          Originally posted by Ted Giles View Post
          Look at the password line.
          The common denominator is a missing odd char.
          How that gets there, I have no idea.
          Can you encrypt the passwords somehow?
          Not the programmer but I will ask him if he can encrypt this ONE file that is created when you do the export/import function. In my opinion it seems to be a BUG.

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          • #6
            Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

            Suggest you ask him/her to review the V12 changes to encryption for pwds.There are legacy and new version issues.
            In the Help about Pwds.
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            In fairness to alcohol, I have done some stupid things when I was sober too!

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            • #7
              Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

              Due to the fact we do not have clients using our app on the web, phone, tablet etc we stopped our "subscription" about Feb 2017 as it did appear to use that Alpha was doing any more development in the desktop arena and was far too expesnive.

              I did review New Release News and could only find a couple of "bug" fixes for desktop application in the last 3 years. On looking up alpha help, I saw that they added an encryption box as in inserted pics. Ours has no such box.....
              passwords visible in notepad 02.bmppasswords visible in notepad 03.bmp

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              • #8
                Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                must put mind in gear before fingers...."it did appear to us that Alpha was not doing any more development in the desktop....

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                • #9
                  Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                  I believe the Import/Export is there to help developers easily transfer users and groups to other workspaces. I think it is not meant to be kept and should be disposed after use. Just wondering why you want to encrypt it.
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                  Visit https://a5wd.com and download our Alpha Anywhere Library.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                    Alphasoftware did a great job improving the desktop. The Chrome Control alone is such a great component. It enables developers to use the power of the web on their desktop applications. Here are the new desktop features in Alpha Anywhere https://www.alphasoftware.com/v12-desktop-new-features
                    Create windows desktop applications using pure web components.

                    Visit https://a5wd.com and download our Alpha Anywhere Library.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                      Originally posted by Roland View Post
                      I believe the Import/Export is there to help developers easily transfer users and groups to other workspaces. I think it is not meant to be kept and should be disposed after use. Just wondering why you want to encrypt it.
                      a generic set of groups & usernames are sent with our application. The majority of users want to change this and ADD their own users with passwords. They spend many hours doing this. We come along & give them an upgrade of our app which OVERWRITES these security settings UNLESS they have done the export & created this one file that as I mentioned is readable in notepad. I noticed that in a later build alpha has added a place to encrypt "passwords" the plural which I assume is for individual users. I hope this explains why a user mite want to change settings. Am I missing something in your post?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                        I did a little test and can confirm a user created after ticking the 'encrypt passwords' box does have an encrypted password in the exported file.

                        Suggest you delete all users, remove the master password then re-apply with the encrypt box ticked. Recreate the required users and see if all passwords are encrypted.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                          Originally posted by Roland View Post
                          Alphasoftware did a great job improving the desktop. The Chrome Control alone is such a great component. It enables developers to use the power of the web on their desktop applications. Here are the new desktop features in Alpha Anywhere https://www.alphasoftware.com/v12-desktop-new-features
                          We do not need anything to do with the WEB viz our app so has nothing to do with chrome & how good the desktop-web interaction is.

                          In my previous post I mentioned why we stopped subscribing "Due to the fact we do not have clients using our app on the web, phone, tablet etc"

                          There has been little to no improvements in the desktop features in the last 3 years. Looking in the link you sent, the majority have to do with the internet or SQL or how a desktop app interacts with the internet. None of which impact our desktop app.

                          A very small list for desktop developers if those topics are stripped out.

                          The only item that we could use is “PDF Reporting in Windows 10 - Print Drivers have been updated so that you can produce PDF reports in Windows 10 (as well as prior Windows versions).”

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                          • #14
                            Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                            Originally posted by armasoft View Post
                            I did a little test and can confirm a user created after ticking the 'encrypt passwords' box does have an encrypted password in the exported file.

                            Suggest you delete all users, remove the master password then re-apply with the encrypt box ticked. Recreate the required users and see if all passwords are encrypted.
                            Thanks for the suggestion. There is no box for "encrypt passwords" in our Feb 2017 release. I did delete all groups/users etc & re-entered but that did not encrypt the passwords in the exported user file.....No cigars this time.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Some passwords visible with notepad

                              Armasoft aka Jon is 100% correct but a little explanation might help about the process for anyone following this thread.
                              When creating a DB password, if you don't check the Encrypt Passwords box, any passwords will be visible in an Export.
                              Unfortunately, adding the Check at a later date will NOT make the user passwords encrypted. It does not seem to get applied retrospectively. This has to be done at the very beginning and before any users are added.
                              So if your passwords are visible it is best to start over and check the Encrypt box.
                              See our Hybrid Option here;
                              https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


                              In fairness to alcohol, I have done some stupid things when I was sober too!

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