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  • Ted Giles
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    Funny you mention floppies, I'm clearing out stuff and have some old versions on 3.5 discs.

    In my experience, only v12 onwards has any perpetuity issues. The changes in M/soft are more likely to create issues.
    My last Alpha purchased version is V11. I have v12 as a giveaway some years back and it still works.

    Due to the pricing, although it would be nice to use Alpha for Web, I'm not keen on being a hostage to someone else's fortune, so I bought a perpetual web development product. Still developing with Alpha Desktop though as there isn't a better platform anywhere.

    Our RAD test group have mentioned that Access might be coming back with web features.

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  • losthorn
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    Originally posted by Roland View Post

    I know but I cannot find any new link stating about the perpetual licensing except that link. If the perpetual license sold at that time is still in effect, then it could mean that the software can be used indefinitely and upgrade is optional. That is what I want to confirm. I also want to know if a subscription license would fall back to a perpetual license when the subscription is stopped which may allow the use of the software indefinitely.
    Did you ever find an answer as to whether the "perpetual" license is in fact perpetual? I also fell for the "Charter Membership" with all future upgrades being free; and they were until they weren't.

    As a user since 31/2 floppy DOS version; I have been very disappointed in their pricing schemes.

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  • kkfin
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    Originally posted by Ted Giles View Post
    If you are referring to V12, it may be different to earlier versions.
    Search "licensing" and you will see some issues where RT apps have suddenly stopped.
    My old version of V12 - 2014 still works but there is no RT in it, but the changes between V11.5 and 12 for the DT were not worth the expense.

    If you opt for AA Web, your apps will fail if your license is not renewed. At least that is what has been reported.
    My Web/Mobile toolkit is perpetual as I will never join a subscription licensing model as I would be under someone elses control.

    You could always talk to Alpha Sales, Roland.
    In fact there is tons of features in AA compared to v11.5. But if one is just using dbf and forms as before then obviously no need for v12.

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  • Ted Giles
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    If you are referring to V12, it may be different to earlier versions.
    Search "licensing" and you will see some issues where RT apps have suddenly stopped.
    My old version of V12 - 2014 still works but there is no RT in it, but the changes between V11.5 and 12 for the DT were not worth the expense.

    If you opt for AA Web, your apps will fail if your license is not renewed. At least that is what has been reported.
    My Web/Mobile toolkit is perpetual as I will never join a subscription licensing model as I would be under someone elses control.

    You could always talk to Alpha Sales, Roland.

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  • Roland
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    Originally posted by armasoft View Post

    Those prices are from 2013
    I know but I cannot find any new link stating about the perpetual licensing except that link. If the perpetual license sold at that time is still in effect, then it could mean that the software can be used indefinitely and upgrade is optional. That is what I want to confirm. I also want to know if a subscription license would fall back to a perpetual license when the subscription is stopped which may allow the use of the software indefinitely.

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  • armasoft
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    Originally posted by Roland View Post
    On this page https://customerpricing.blogspot.com/ they mentioned about perpetual license and said that the developer/runtime can be used indefinitely. As I understand it, upgrade is optional and the software can be used indefinitely. Will somebody confirm this if it is correct?
    Those prices are from 2013

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  • Ted Giles
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    This is a version 9, running in XP Mode on Windows 7 - which I use as a Development machine.
    I imagine that V8 works in a similar way, although I don't use it.
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    Best way is to get someone to test out the app in whatever version of Windows you want.
    I'm happy to try it in Win7 and Win10 if you can send a basic version.

    Alpha 9,10,10.5, 11, 11.5(?) all seem to run on new windows versions and are perpetual, but don't expect any help from Alpha with older versions.

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  • Roland
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    On this page https://customerpricing.blogspot.com/ they mentioned about perpetual license and said that the developer/runtime can be used indefinitely. As I understand it, upgrade is optional and the software can be used indefinitely. Will somebody confirm this if it is correct?

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  • CALocklin
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    I was about to ask the same question. A long time customer (20 years?) has an app in A5v8 that is still running on an XP computer. He'd like to upgrade the computer (and is afraid that old XP could die any day and put him out of business for a while) but can't afford $1,000 a year for a subscription. They need at least one full version of Alpha Anywhere. Will the DESKTOP app continue to work as long as they don't need an upgrade to Alpha?

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  • noldfield
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    licensing for desktop

    we've got an Alpha desktop application that we were considering moving to a server architecture, but have decided not to do it. We have been faithfully paying our license fee for several years but there has been pretty well no desktop upgrade activity for a while now. I assume if we stop paying the annual license we can continue to use the version we have just we won't get any updates. Has anyone done this and are there any issues?
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