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    Runtime size comparison

    I have a desktop application and just purchased Alpha Anywhere and on installing V12 runtime I get a size of 521MB vs a runtime v10.5 size of 161MB.

    I know hard drives are getting but this to me seems a tad ridiculous. Is there anything that I can eliminate in the runtime to make it smaller.

    Thanks.

    #2
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    hard drives are getting larger....

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      #3
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      I haven't looked but I will there is a lot of CSS and html support stuff that can be eliminated.
      There can be only one.

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        #4
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        + jsnode stuff
        and some more as well.
        Dave Mason
        [email protected]
        Skype is dave.mason46

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          #5
          Re: Runtime size comparison

          thanks for the help. could not find jsnode stuff or some more as well. where are these? The CSS folder is very small. and as a non programmer looking at many folders, html support stuff does not show up on my radar.

          None of these take much of a dent in the runtime that has tripled in size.

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            #6
            Re: Runtime size comparison

            It would be a great help if Selwyn would give some guidance for various installs that could lower the size a bit.

            Using v12 - My installer files usually run 175M with empty tables and compacted workspaces. That includes leaving out what I am SURE I don't need from the install.

            With pre-v10 versions it was about half that.

            The alpha runtime is much larger than it used to be.
            Dave Mason
            [email protected]
            Skype is dave.mason46

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              #7
              Re: Runtime size comparison

              I would agree 100% as it appears to me that since Alpha stopped improving the Desktop version, the runtimes get bigger & bigger to accommodate the WEB & mobile features. Since 10.5, there has been MINIMAL alpha support for anybody who is ONLY using alpha in desktop applications.

              Hence the bloated runtime that went in 10.5 from 161MB to 521MB in v12.

              Much like the too soon prediction that tablets, notepads & mobile devices would be the death of laptops & desktop PCs, I still see the majority of my clients using these in their plants with a DESKTOP applicltion.

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                #8
                Re: Runtime size comparison

                There are millions of users out there that do NOT want their critical(to them) data on the internet.

                There is much in the runtime I don't need that I already know of, like, js, html, unused themes, sql tools and such. I normally leave them out as much as possible. That causes some testing of creating the install and then using it on another machine to see if it still works.
                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                  #9
                  Re: Runtime size comparison

                  I get the same opinion from my clients. And it would be a big help if Alpha gave users a list of what can be eliminated in the runtime if the WEB-programming features are not needed. Some or most of the 350MB bloated size must be related to web-programming.

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                    #10
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                    my clients using these in their plants with a DESKTOP applicltion
                    Ah, but that doesn't make Alpha or Microsoft any money!
                    There can be only one.

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                      #11
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                      so true and companies need to make a profit to stay in business. But alpha from a marketing standpoint they should look at how their software is priced. What about a price for desktops ONLY?

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                        #12
                        Re: Runtime size comparison

                        Ask them for it? You may get a surprise.
                        Dave Mason
                        [email protected]
                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                          #13
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                          But if Alpha was smart, they'd offer a desktop subscription and a Web subscription, developing in both

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                            #14
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                            Originally posted by dchiass View Post
                            so true and companies need to make a profit to stay in business. But alpha from a marketing standpoint they should look at how their software is priced. What about a price for desktops ONLY?
                            You can buy desktop only as Dave says, they just don't advertise it.

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                              #15
                              Re: Runtime size comparison

                              Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                              Ask them for it? You may get a surprise.
                              Been asked before Dave. NFI response.
                              I agree with Dave that there are loads of people who don't trust Cloud type storage. I use a Synology NAS which is a pretty good personal Cloud server, but also some web based Db's for demos. I believe corporates prefer having control of the data, but a shared hosting service helps sell the demo.
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