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  • Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

    Having seen what version 10 w. codeless AJAX offers, I thought I would start another thread. Frankly, I am unable to contain myself. Version 10, to my mind certainly, is nothing short of a monumental breakthrough in web database development. The introduction of codeless AJAX alone is an outstanding achievement (yes, it really is codeless). But, beyond that, the array of extremely powerful and easy to use web features is simply astounding. For anyone who has seriously thought of making the leap from the desktop to the web, version 10 is it. Not only do you no longer have to re-fetch and refresh an entire page when, say, updating grid records, but Alpha now provides unprecedented and incredibly versatile tools, which provide unparalleled levels of functionality and productivity. This is no exaggeration.

    Congratulation to the entire Alpha Five team for developing a remarkable and truly revolutionary web platform!
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

    Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com



  • #2
    Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

    Well said.

    V10 is going to amaze people.
    Frank R

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    • #3
      Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

      The introduction of codeless AJAX alone is an outstanding achievement
      Agreed.
      I am under the impression that what is good for the Alpha Software Company will be good for all current Alpha Developers.
      Although Alpha has created codeless AJAX, the next challenge is now to Market this breakthrough. If this marketting is successful there will be a lot of extra Alpha developmnet happening, and that is good news for Alpha developers.
      Ajax alone promises near desktop performance on a webbrowser interface.
      Codeless AJAX promises fast development of those webbrowser interfaces.

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      • #4
        Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

        I have a question related to a statement I saw in the email about the new V10. It says: "We have also boosted the performance of Aplication Server by rewriting key parts of it in C Sharp." <= that is the exact quote from the email, misspelling and all. :)

        My question is, how will C Sharp improve performance? I assume that most or all of the V9 application server is written in C (or C++), is that correct? I also further assume that C# has the same relative performance characteristics as Java.

        From my experience, Java has poor performance, despite the hype. C# has to be about the same.

        Please comment on my assumptions. But if I'm correct, then how will C# deliver higher performance over C or C++?

        Thank you.

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        • #5
          Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

          well i suppose that they improved the way that the server (wich is writen in c#) can interpret Xbasic and maybe javascript too.

          But forget the techie stuff, I im trying v10 and is a lot faster than previeous versions.
          Cheers
          Mauricio

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          • #6
            Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

            Okay, the fact that you say it's faster is a very good thing, and that's the bottom line, isn't it? :)

            I honestly don't care how they did it, as long as it works well. I gave up technology religious wars a long time ago. I was just curious.

            And I am very excited about the new version. Hope it lives up to this hype. :)

            Thank you.

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            • #7
              Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

              it's faster is a very good thing, and that's the bottom line, isn't it?
              Yes :-)
              --
              I was just curious.
              OK, I have written a couple of million lines of C++, and several years ago when MS introduced C#, I thought we were in for a performance hammering, as I wrongly believed C# was just going to be an interpreted script language.
              --
              I consider the biggest boost C# got was through the managed code aka auto garbage collecting. This allows developers to worry about things apart from resource leaks. Next the CLR with JIT compiling allows for better cross the board performance. But there is also Managed C++ and a lot of other languages, C sharp is just the MS defacto||base language.

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              • #8
                Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                Originally posted by mmaisterrena View Post
                well i suppose that they improved the way that the server (wich is writen in C) c
                Correction: I actually don't know the language in which the server is writen
                Cheers
                Mauricio

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                • #9
                  Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                  A lot of Alpha is actually written in Xbasic which proves what a fully featured and useable language it is. That's one of the reasons they can provide so much functionality so quickly.

                  The statement about C# concerns rewriting some key (and often used) functions from Xbasic to C# to improve their performance.

                  I can't get a lot of the new V10 stuff to work, so I'm very glad to hear about how well it is working for others...must be something in my setup.

                  Pat
                  Pat Bremkamp
                  MindKicks Consulting

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                  • #10
                    Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                    Pat, im having some problems too for example
                    I cant make "traditional" lookups work
                    Expanding rows wont work either
                    The Alpha five interface is slower than v9 (remember version 6?)

                    but im confident that the alpha team will work on correcting most of this issues before release

                    Still the features that are working for me are very impresive i think that this is not Alpha Five v10 it should be Alpha SIX v1 or Alpha Revolution v1 (naa lets save that last one for a video game or something)
                    Cheers
                    Mauricio

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                      Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                      Originally posted by mmaisterrena View Post
                      I cant make "traditional" lookups work
                      Expanding rows wont work either
                      The Alpha five interface is slower than v9 (remember version 6?)
                      Haven't tried traditional lookups in v10 yet.
                      Expanding rows work great for me. But sometimes there seems to be some kind of intermittent bug where you need to switch to the "pre-fetch" option - try that.
                      Normal usage speed issues are often slower in a beta. At least that's been my past experience. But I haven't focused on the desktop at all, just the web stuff.
                      Peter
                      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                      Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
                      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                      • #12
                        Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                        Originally posted by mmaisterrena View Post
                        Pat, im having some problems too for example
                        I cant make "traditional" lookups work
                        Expanding rows wont work either
                        The Alpha five interface is slower than v9 (remember version 6?)

                        but im confident that the alpha team will work on correcting most of this issues before release
                        Are you trying to report the specifics of what you are finding?

                        While there will be things to resolve in the beta as they are uncovered, I do have lookups and expanding rows working.
                        Frank R

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                        • #13
                          Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                          Originally posted by Lou Milone View Post
                          I have a question related to a statement I saw in the email about the new V10. It says: "We have also boosted the performance of Aplication Server by rewriting key parts of it in C Sharp." <= that is the exact quote from the email, misspelling and all. :)

                          My question is, how will C Sharp improve performance? I assume that most or all of the V9 application server is written in C (or C++), is that correct? I also further assume that C# has the same relative performance characteristics as Java.
                          The Application Server is a mix of Xbasic, C and C++. Some of the Xbasic that was taking longer to execute than expected was rewritten in C++.

                          But as others have stated, the actual programming language is essentially insignificant. What is important is that we were able identify an area of the code that was impacting performance and reimplement it in a way that makes the server run faster.

                          Lenny Forziati
                          Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
                          Alpha Software Corporation

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                          • #14
                            Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                            Dear Peter,

                            Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
                            Having seen what version 10 w. codeless AJAX offers, I thought I would start another thread. Frankly, I am unable to contain myself. Version 10, to my mind certainly, is nothing short of a monumental breakthrough in web database development. The introduction of codeless AJAX alone is an outstanding achievement (yes, it really is codeless). But, beyond that, the array of extremely powerful and easy to use web features is simply astounding. For anyone who has seriously thought of making the leap from the desktop to the web, version 10 is it. Not only do you no longer have to re-fetch and refresh an entire page when, say, updating grid records, but Alpha now provides unprecedented and incredibly versatile tools, which provide unparalleled levels of functionality and productivity. This is no exaggeration.

                            Congratulation to the entire Alpha Five team for developing a remarkable and truly revolutionary web platform!
                            Just reading last Alpha's sales promoton email...

                            In which your statement (above) is quoted...

                            Have not seen a more positive reaction than this one on the board from you recently...
                            Are you getting a percentage of related sales over it?
                            ;-]
                            Hope you will...
                            You deserve it...
                            Because you're right, I'm sure.
                            Isn't it amazing?
                            (so that's 1.5 % for me...)

                            Just joking.
                            ;-]
                            Regards, Ron

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                              Re: Revolutionary Alpha Five version 10

                              . Probably hit enter twice , sorry..

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