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Re: V10 Realese
Originally posted by jpeltola View Postwell i would like to know that too...at least an estimate...
i have to start couple of projects soon but i cant wait for too long...but probably i have to consider other alternatives...its a pity though...v10 looks very promising...
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Re: V10 Realese
if you need the beta just email me directly at [email protected] and I will get it to you promptly
you can definitely start working with it now
thanksRichard Rabins
Co Chairman
Alpha Software
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Re: V10 Release
Elena,
I know where you are coming from with your investment in dialogs, and it was mentioned at the conference there are going to be some additions to dialogs in the future, but I would have to say, after using V10 for quite a while now � i don�t think dialogs are going to make it � the new grid seems to play the role now. I have discarded all my dialog development and moved exclusively to the dynamic functions of the grid.
The good thing V10 codeless ajax builds quickly and you have the benfits of process in your favor.Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein, (attributed)
US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)
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Re: V10 Release
Selwyn told me in response to a recent bug report that there are not going to be any changes to dialogs in V10. For V11, the dialog will be redone, but it will actually be a special case of the grid.
I also have a large number of dialogs in my past work, but, for V10 it looks like I'll want to rewrite everthing anyway, so it's going to be a lot of work, but not that much extra work, for any customers who want to upgrade.
There are a couple problems with grids as substitutes for dialogs: one is size. The first grid I created to replace a dialog was 141k. The dialog it replaced was 31k (which doesn't count the Ajax page also created). The good news is it doesn't seem to take much extra time to run the grid.
The second problem is appearance. The "form" version of the grid still looks grid-like. This is because they've changed the way the "above" and "below" row label appears on the form. It used to be, if I had a large text area, I could set the row label to "above", and the text area would cover the row label area as well as the data area. Now, the label moves to the top, but there is still an ugly empty area where the label used to be.
By the way, does it annoy anyone else that they have a "left", "right", "top" and "botom" option for row labels, but no "none"?
Pat
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Re: V10 Release
I'm fine with changing it to grids.
I'm just not sure how to do this now. I can't use linked grids because I'm creating a new record that will update several tables. I can use a view, but I don't know how or where to write the code to insert a new record if the dealer doesn't already exist (dlrid will be the key here I think.)
I just got used to dialogs and how to manipulate them. dang.Up and coming Alphaholic ;)
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I've been thinking about the same issue. I have a signup dialog that creates a client record, a location record, an employee record, a user record and logs the person in...a lot of work for one form! So, I decided to create a grid with a lot of dummy fields, load them all into session variables (like session.su.firstname) and then go to a page of just xbasic to do all that work. Not so bad because I already have the Xbasic written in the dialog.
I'd leave it in the nice skinny dialog instead of a fat grid and an extra page, but there is a problem with cascading dropdowns that isn't going to be fixed, so I'm going to have to go that route.
Pat
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