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    #16
    Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

    All of you thinking about using the 'cloud' pay heed to what just happened at Google, the cloud just 'evaporated'.
    Win 10 64 Development, Win 7 64 WAS 11-1, 2, Win 10 64 AA-1,2, MySql, dbForge Studio The Best MySQL GUI Tool IMHO. http://www.devart.com/dbforge/mysql/studio/

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      #17
      Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

      We had all of BMJ's articles picked up from an Alpha5 server with each page view retrieving a file from our file system and then displaying it in the browser. We also had all their online only "Case Reports" previewed by converting an XML file into HTML and inserting all the images as thumbnails, converting links and references appropriately etc.

      Not a lot of logged in users but dozens of people accessing the files every hour.

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        #18
        Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

        Originally posted by chadbrown View Post
        I guess concurrent users is a hard thing to prove and maybe I was using the wrong terminology but I was not trying to miss-lead in any way.

        I am not sure how you could ever figure out true concurrent users being that you don't have to submit anything to be a user. You could be a user that only looks at read only grids, or view and print reports.
        There is a neat utility called CurrPorts http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html
        It will give you an instant picture of all ports on your server.
        It is customizable and you can create logs so I think you could get an true count of connections. This monitors actual connections to the port so it won't care about sessions. If you use it and like it please donate.
        Win 10 64 Development, Win 7 64 WAS 11-1, 2, Win 10 64 AA-1,2, MySql, dbForge Studio The Best MySQL GUI Tool IMHO. http://www.devart.com/dbforge/mysql/studio/

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          #19
          Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

          Originally posted by frankbicknell View Post
          All of you thinking about using the 'cloud' pay heed to what just happened at Google, the cloud just 'evaporated'.
          What does that mean?
          Nicholas Wieland
          LedgerSuite.com Corp
          [email protected]
          http://www.ledgersuite.com

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            #20
            Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

            Supposedly there was a period of time when anyone using the google docs which are in the clouds had no access to there files. A scary notion!
            Chad Brown

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              #21
              Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

              Supposedly there was a period of time when anyone using the google docs which are in the clouds had no access to there files.
              To a small % of users.
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

              [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                #22
                Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                Peter & Steve,

                If I'm freaking out at least a little bit about this concurrent users thing, am I getting my knickers in knots about nothing?
                Wendy Welton
                Architect
                past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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                  #23
                  Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                  Take a deep breath. :) You're getting ahead of yourself a little.
                  Peter
                  AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                  [email protected]
                  https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                    #24
                    Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                    Sorry - this system hichupped and duplicated my post - and I don't see a way to delete. Ignore this one.
                    Thanks.
                    Wendy Welton
                    Architect
                    past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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                      #25
                      Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                      Peter,

                      I'm tryin' to! (Breathe, that is. Breathing is good.)

                      I'm actually less worried about problems right out of the gate as I am about problems when all my grand plans are both in place and actually produce results! Hitting that wall would be a sign of success.

                      Thanks.
                      Wendy Welton
                      Architect
                      past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                      http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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                        #26
                        Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                        Re concurrent users...

                        In Chad's case, he knows how many concurrent users there are because they are employees in his stores. This is not theory. He knows the number of computers and the number of users and how long it takes to process a customer activation and create invoices, purchase orders and accounting reconcilliations.

                        Much different that my looking at visitors to my public site when I don't know how many, where they are or what they are doing.

                        So, I think his title of Real-life is pretty accurate.

                        Pat
                        Pat Bremkamp
                        MindKicks Consulting

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                          #27
                          Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                          Originally posted by WendyWelton View Post
                          Peter & Steve,

                          If I'm freaking out at least a little bit about this concurrent users thing, am I getting my knickers in knots about nothing?
                          Wendy,

                          There really is no limit to the number of concurrent users. It is a matter of CPU power and bandwidth, both of which can be increased. It is really a matter of money.
                          Win 10 64 Development, Win 7 64 WAS 11-1, 2, Win 10 64 AA-1,2, MySql, dbForge Studio The Best MySQL GUI Tool IMHO. http://www.devart.com/dbforge/mysql/studio/

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                            #28
                            Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                            Originally posted by frankbicknell View Post
                            Wendy,

                            There really is no limit to the number of concurrent users. It is a matter of CPU power and bandwidth, both of which can be increased. It is really a matter of money.

                            Easy with the no limit there Frank. Wendy is probably referring to one WAS.

                            I do agree you can scale it up quite a bit if you want to with multiple servers and instances of WAS but you better not be using dbf if you want some large number of users.
                            Chad Brown

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                              #29
                              Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                              Thanks guys.

                              Yes, I was talking about one WAS, but I accidentally bought two (long story, short life!) - so I guess I could use both.

                              On advice from Peter (my tutor) and Steve (I'm using his framework) - I'm going to just proceed for now, still dbf and all. I switch to SQL at some point in the future, but we're on a roll and there's some urgency to getting my current web site replaced - at least a "beta" version of it on a alternate domain address for my subscription builders.

                              Pat's point is, imho, spot on. A web site that's the public face of a business is a completely different animal than a web site that's heavy on data entry and data processing. Potentially a lot more users - but potentially less intensive as the database sees it.

                              That's why I would still be interested in any links to active websites and some basic stats to go with them (how many visitors per day, how many pages they visit) along with basic setup (1 WAS, 2...) and any other tidbits that pertain.

                              I'm officially done "freaking out" and moving on to absorbing information so I can keep mentally planning as I grow my current web site and user base, and plan add-on web sites.

                              And thank you IMMENSELY to everyone who took the time to patiently 'plain me this!
                              Wendy Welton
                              Architect
                              past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                              http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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                                #30
                                Re: Real-life WAS/SQL

                                One last thought. I think "concurrent actions" might be a more accurate and less scary way to phrase it.
                                Wendy Welton
                                Architect
                                past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                                http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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