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Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

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    Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

    1. I have set-up my A5 server on a Virtual Server and it seems to be happily running in the background.
    2. I have published the contact sample to my Virtual Server � this seemed to happen quite fast and error free.
    3. I have set-up the server to use port 8080.
    4. I set-up the default page to be contact.a5w which was published to a folder that I didn�t control as I used defaults. It is present.
    5. I then typed into my browser my IP address followed by http://xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080.
    6. I got the standard �page not found�.

    I suspect what I am doing wrong is that I have three domains on my Virtual Machine. Let us say the domain I ftp�d was www.mydomain.com and my other domains were www.onedomain.com and www.twodoman.com. These all share the same IP so how does the web browser and alpha 5 9 interact. How do I solve this? Any feedback really appreciated.

    Are there any other problems I could be having?

    Kind regards
    Jonathon
    :o

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    Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

    Originally posted by wizilinx View Post
    1. I have set-up my A5 server on a Virtual Server and it seems to be happily running in the background.
    2. I have published the contact sample to my Virtual Server � this seemed to happen quite fast and error free.
    3. I have set-up the server to use port 8080.
    4. I set-up the default page to be contact.a5w which was published to a folder that I didn�t control as I used defaults. It is present.
    5. I then typed into my browser my IP address followed by http://xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080.
    6. I got the standard �page not found�.

    I suspect what I am doing wrong is that I have three domains on my Virtual Machine. Let us say the domain I ftp�d was www.mydomain.com and my other domains were www.onedomain.com and www.twodoman.com. These all share the same IP so how does the web browser and alpha 5 9 interact. How do I solve this? Any feedback really appreciated.

    Are there any other problems I could be having?

    Kind regards
    Jonathon
    :o
    I don't know if it is possible, but if the WAS is configured for port 8080 there might be something in the virtual server settings/setup that can sort this. As far as I'm aware, if BOTH domains need to run a different WAS site it's not possible without involving Apache, and the Apache module is now only available as part of the (not yet released) Application Cluster.

    I'm hoping I'm wrong.... you can point two different domains at the same server or VPS but you'd need separate VPSs and separate WAS copies to run two different WAS apps/sites from two different domains.

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      #3
      Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

      http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=73227
      Watch the VPS demo thread that's on this sevice.

      Also if you are using mutiple domain names, don't address the VPS directly, address the folder on the vps by redirecting the vps at the ISP end.

      I don't think this was what caused your issue - but I knoe it works.

      Watch the Video.


      Good luck - Peter
      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
      Albert Einstein, (attributed)
      US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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        #4
        Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

        Originally posted by peteconway View Post
        Also if you are using mutiple domain names, don't address the VPS directly, address the folder on the vps by redirecting the vps at the ISP end.
        Phew... so glad I was wrong there! Good to know for future reference...

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          #5
          Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

          rad this post and you will see my samples.

          http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=73637
          Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
          Albert Einstein, (attributed)
          US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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            #6
            Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

            You can have as many URL's the VPS can cope with performance wise.

            Use an ISP that will allow URL Redirction e.g.

            117.74.99.4/alphaweb/

            117.74.99.4/savevicpark/

            117.74.99.4/this is the folder you publish to in A5Webroot

            Peter I'll fix the image link - thanks for the error checking.

            Redirection is not the same as setting the URL - the ISP is actually redirecting this to your Webroot - you can do the same thing yourself in HTML on the current URL/subfolder you have to the VPS link as above.

            Peter
            Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
            Albert Einstein, (attributed)
            US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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              #7
              Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

              Hi Wizilink,

              A couple of questions

              1. are you running the Virtual Server at home (on your own network).
              2. What are you using (VMWare ??)

              So, in this case you need to set up NAT instead of Bridged networking so that
              the host can see the guest (the host is the main OS on your computer, the Guest is the VmWare session).

              Hope this helps.

              Steven

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                #8
                Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                Hi Steven

                Thanks for helping me.

                My VPS is provided to me by ISP. It is on Windows 2003. I already host two sites from it. All I know is that it has one IP address as it stands but have no idea how it decides to route to one website to another. My Alpha product is why I got a VPS and it has another domain name.

                Sadly I can't answer the rest of you questions as I am not aware of the answers. Probably explains why I am having so much difficutly. VMWare?? NAT?? Bridged Networking??

                Am I beyond help?

                Kind regards
                Jonathon

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                  #9
                  Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                  Originally posted by peteconway View Post
                  You can have as many URL's the VPS can cope with performance wise.

                  Use an ISP that will allow URL Redirction e.g.

                  117.74.99.4/alphaweb/

                  117.74.99.4/savevicpark/

                  117.74.99.4/this is the folder you publish to in A5Webroot

                  Peter I'll fix the image link - thanks for the error checking.

                  Redirection is not the same as setting the URL - the ISP is actually redirecting this to your Webroot - you can do the same thing yourself in HTML on the current URL/subfolder you have to the VPS link as above.

                  Peter
                  Thanks for helping me.

                  I can't wait to get home to put your advise into practise to see if it works.

                  One question though lets say http://12.123.123.123/a5webroot works which sounds optimistic. I do allow people to access this like www.MyGreatMoneyEarningWebsite.com..?

                  Cheers
                  Jonathon

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                    #10
                    Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                    Hi Jonathon,

                    Ok, I thought you were on a VMWare machine at home (I tend to use this
                    kind of setup at my job for testing purposes and it's easier to backup/restore
                    when you screw things up).

                    So, when we are talking about Virtual Servers we mean VPS.

                    Sorry, but at the time I don't see a solution here. The other domains you're
                    hosting on the same VPS are they also A5 related ? Or are you running a different Webserver for them ?

                    Cheers
                    Steven

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                      #11
                      Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                      Originally posted by Steven P. View Post
                      Hi Jonathon,

                      Ok, I thought you were on a VMWare machine at home (I tend to use this
                      kind of setup at my job for testing purposes and it's easier to backup/restore
                      when you screw things up).

                      So, when we are talking about Virtual Servers we mean VPS.

                      Sorry, but at the time I don't see a solution here. The other domains you're
                      hosting on the same VPS are they also A5 related ? Or are you running a different Webserver for them ?

                      Cheers
                      Steven
                      My objective is to eliminate the risk that after doing loads of development my product cannot be hosted as I want. Once I have done that. I will do as do work, test and backup on a different environment.

                      My other two I believe with my understanding are handled by IIS and are static web sites. See www.minidogs.co.uk for a laugh. I only want one Apha domain for now but I would be interested to see whether if many Alpha domains could be hosted on a VPS. Funny thing is I am beginning to wonder if is the Virtual Server that is an issue as so far I think my lack of understanding would I apply if I had a dedicated server. How do I resolve many domains. Someone kindly has given me further information in this thread which I am dying to try.

                      Thanks for helping me. Jonathon

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                        #12
                        Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                        Hi Jonathon,

                        Have you tried to disable the IIS service on the VPS and then run the A5 webserver ? If this give you an a5 page, we have to look at the configuration of IIS.

                        Cheers
                        Steven

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                          #13
                          Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                          You must disable the IIS.

                          Also

                          http://12.123.123.123/

                          Would be the webroot.

                          Your folders will be http://12.123.123.123/project folder name

                          say it's sportscontacts

                          http://12.123.123.123/sportscontatcs

                          It's that simple.
                          Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
                          Albert Einstein, (attributed)
                          US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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                            #14
                            Re: Fighting with A Virtual Server and Understanding

                            Hi Pete

                            I am going to owe you an English pint soon with all your help. Well put answer!

                            Jonathon

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