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  • A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

    I am having problems on my desktop computer (my laptop is fine) with the a5w html editor. It appears that the default editor/generator has changed and it is causing problems seeing components on my a5w pages. The problems are causing errors when I have a navigator and a component on an a5w page (navigator only seems okay). Files that I created before this problem are fine when I open them but when I switch to WYSIWYG and switch back to Source, it adds a bunch of code that wasn't there before. I noticed these problems yesterday and were either a result of an Alpha crash I had on
    Tuesday or a Windows system update that occured overnight on Tuesday.

    Here is the error message that I am receiving:
    Code:
    500 Internal Server Error
    "Script Error
    Error:Script: /LivePreview/$$1308.a5w line:112
    ? ; ?x_dlg_Invoice.Output.Body.Dialog_Echo ;?;?crlf()
    Not found 
    x_dlg_Invoice not found."
    Here are some of the differences in the code with a page created before and after:

    Before:
    Code:
    <meta name="generator" content="Alpha Five HTML Editor Version 9 Build 2095-3264">
    Code:
    <html>
    <head>
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="WinXp.css">
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="Style.css">
    <%a5
    '''
    %>
    After:
    Code:
    <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16890" name=GENERATOR>
    Code:
    <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
    <html><head><title>Overview</title>
    <meta http-equiv=Content-type content="text/html; charset=unicode"><link 
    media=screen href="a5res:defaultStyle\(default)" type=text/css 
    rel=stylesheet><link href="WinXp.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet><link 
    href="Style.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet><%a5
    '''
    %>
    I looked for a way to change the default HTML editor in A5 and went as far as to uninstall and re-install A5 but it "remembered" my license info and all of my recent files, so the defaults were never reset. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    Tom

  • #2
    Re: A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

    Here is a little more info. I have changed the HTML Editor to open to the Source tab instead of the WYSIWYG tab. When I create a new a5w page, I get the following code:

    Code:
    <html>
    <head>
    <meta name="generator" content="Alpha Five HTML Editor Version 9 Build 2095-3264">
    <title></title>
    </head>
    <body>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    </body></html>
    When I go to the WYSIWYG tab and then come back to the Source tab, the code is changed to:

    Code:
    <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
    <html><head><title></title><link media=screen 
    href="a5res:defaultStyle\(default)" type=text/css rel=stylesheet>
    <meta http-equiv=Content-type content="text/html; charset=unicode"><link 
    media=screen href="a5res:defaultStyle\(default)" type=text/css rel=stylesheet>
    <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16890" name=GENERATOR></head>
    <body>
    <p>&nbsp;</p></body></html>

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    • #3
      Re: A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

      I don't even go to WYSIWYG anymore. It does more damage than you show below. It replaces the DOC TYPE with what it wants, it screws up your own CSS and removes hard line feeds all over the place making your HTML all run together. I don't know what the "a5res:defaultStyle" is supposed to do, but I don't want what I don't want, so I don't use WYSIWYG. I have not turned it in as a bug because I am sure it is 'not a bug'.
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      • #4
        Re: A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

        The only thing I use the WYSIWYG for is placing components. How do you place them if you don't use it?

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        • #5
          Re: A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

          OK, so I did now turn it in as a bug, and got an instant reply. The answer from Alpha is 'can't do anything about it'. The WYSIWYG editor is a Microsoft HTML editor DLL and those, I guess, are the defaults. The suggestion is to use a 3rd party editor like Dreamweaver.

          I think (I don't know this to be true) what happened is that V10 is using a different version of this editor and has the effect you describe below. V9 did NOT have this behaviour. But since V9 has been continually updated with V10 code, V9 now has this updated editor. Either that or a new version of the editor is in the V10 beta code which nearly everyone has installed, and this means your copy of V9 has the updated editor. So maybe a solution is to go back to an earlier patch for V9 and update just the editor -- I have NO IDEA if this will work or screw things up. But, as I said, earlier this year V9 did NOT have this problem, and now it does.

          I think the appropriate thing is to ask Alpha for a patch to V9 to return the old editor version, if possible.
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          • #6
            Re: A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

            The only thing I use the WYSIWYG for is placing components. How do you place them if you don't use it?
            Yes, that is a problem. If you upgrade to V10, there is a genie to generate the code to paste in to source.

            Of course, that does not help anyone who plans to stick with V9. So like I said in my previous post, I think Alpha should help us get back the previous editor version if possible for V9 users. I will be using V9 for at least another year or so for previous applications, so I need this too.

            What others have done (to avoid using WYSIWYG) is to create a dummy page, insert the component in that dummy page, and then copy-paste the code to the desired page. Lots of extra work!!

            My comment is that WYSIWYG is nearly useless at this point unless you are still creating pages using tables for your layout. If you are using CSS, then the WYSIWYG view is of no use except to insert a component. And then, you have to do it just right to keep from losing your CSS either above or below the inserted component. Do it wrong and Alpha will strip DIV and /DIV tags near the insert point.
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            • #7
              Re: A5 HTML Editor/Generator Changed?

              Please see this post for a wrap up on this topic:

              http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=81591
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