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    Web Server V7 used with V5

    I have been using the Version 6 Web Server with our Version 5 Database. Can the V7 Web Server be used with Version 5 without any problems?
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    We have been using a v7 WAS application with an Alpha v4.5 database and it works just fine, so I assume you would have no problems with version 5.
    Sergeant Richard Hartnett
    Hyattsville City Police Department
    Maryland

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      Rich

      Thanks for the info.


      Jim

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        #4
        This is interesting !
        How would you use a V5 database to build a V6 or V7 webapplication without converting the actual database to V6 or V7 version ?

        I was always under the impression you HAD to update from V5 to V6 or V7 in order to be able to use the features like the Web Component Builder, WAS, etc. etc. Was I wrong all along?

        Can I just start Alpha Five V7, load a V5 database and just start producing components WITHOUT thereby upgrading the underlaying database to V7 ?

        Kind regards,

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          Our networked in-house database is currently running Alpha5V5 applications with forms, reports etc. Alpha5V6 is used only as a Webserver in accessing the tables only. We do not use V6 for the desktop apps. The precaution is that you cannot open forms or reports made from V5 with V6. If you do, it will convert them and then not accessable by V5 any more.

          Jim

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            That's correct Marcel. The web application server is only "looking" at the raw data in the A5, v5 tables. In that respect there is no reason to upgrade to v6 or v7 other than to get the WAS, which is now sold separately. In fact, the WAS can put data on the web from totally separate applications, such as Excel or other ODBC compliant data sources.

            However, as stated above, forms and reports created in v5 may not open in v6 or 7, and if you convert them to v6 or 7, you will no longer be able to open them in v5. Likewise, if you use v5 on one computer, and v6 or 7 on another computer, you can still access the original database created in v5 on both computers, but if you created any forms or reports in v6 or 7, the folks using v5 will get an error message when they try to open them.

            At my department, we still use v4.5 on all of our desktops, except for the server, and the desktop that is used to create the WAS pages. That one has both v4.5 and v7 on it. Meanwhile, all of our forms were created in version 4.5, so everybody can open them and print out reports. We'll probably upgrade all of them to version 7 in the future, but for now it seems to work just fine.
            Sergeant Richard Hartnett
            Hyattsville City Police Department
            Maryland

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              #7
              Hi Rich,

              It is indeed the case that the complete websection of A5 is separate from the desktop application, which has its effect on upgrading issues.

              There have been some questions on my side regarding upgrading issues for instance from V5 to V6 or V7. There is hardly any documentation to be found on that except that I saw that in the helpsection there has been an addition to this subject "Upgrading from version 6 to version 7" most recently.

              When you look at "upgrading", the current situation is, that simply opening a database will not upgrade it. Going to the web control panel and editing components will not touch your forms, scripts, tables etc. It will only pick up any V7 changes if you save something and what you are saving takes advantage of new V7 functionality.

              And even then, only what you are saving will be upgraded, so changing a single form, for example, will leave the others untouched.
              (Source: Alpha Five, Lenny Forziati)

              This is of importance to be aware of. It is possible to open forms created under V5 with the V7 application and save them -no changes-. Users will still be able to open that form with V5.
              It is possible to open forms created under V5 with the V7 application and change them, using functionality that also existed in V5, and then save it. Users will still be able to open that form with V5.
              When you open forms created under V5 with the V7 application and change them using new functionality from V7 which did not excist under V5 users will (understandably) run into problems.

              Furthermore, to make this thread complete, it is possible to create V6 components based on V5 tables, and then upgrade from V6 to V7 with regards to the components only and still be able to run V5 forms etc. from the desktop side.

              For me, this was valuable information from Lenny, and my advise would be to create another section in the helpsection stating this kind of information to keep it central.

              Kind regards,

              Marcel

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                Well said Marcel. Thanks for clarifying that for all of us.

                Rich
                Sergeant Richard Hartnett
                Hyattsville City Police Department
                Maryland

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