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    I am currently using A5v11, having upgraded from previous versions going back to A4v? many years ago. I only run one application for my business, but it's a very important booking system.

    Simple question: will A5v11 applications run under Alpha Anywhere? I don't mind a bit of tweaking but I would hate to rewrite the whole thing!

    I'm sure this has been discussed in the forum but I couldn't find the answer and I am an infrequent visitor

    Many thanks for any help and I am sure many are also considering this
    Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 02-20-2020, 06:46 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Upgrade Quandary

    Jerry, short answer is yes. Long answer is that you may need to do a few tweaks due to changes in functions or other. You may find some bugs were fixed and a few created depending the version you choose.
    Dave Mason
    Skype is dave.mason46


    • #3
      Re: Upgrade Quandary

      You could try it out first and for free.
      Take AS up on the 30 day trial.
      You might want to check that the changes between V11and V12 are relevent to your situation.
      Lots of stuff added to the Web side.
      Not too much to the DT side I suspect.
      Ted Giles
      Example Consulting - UK

      See our site for Alpha Support, Conversion and Upgrade.


      • #4
        Re: Upgrade Quandary

        Thanks for your help. It's the fact that A5v11 is being 'retired' that is a concern for me. I recall having to upgrade sometime in the past when a new version of Windows meant the Alpha version I was using could no longer compile pdfs, so I think I will go for the desktop version of Alpha Anywhere


        • #5
          Re: Upgrade Quandary


          Keep in view with Alpha Anywhere you need a valid subscription to continue to use bother developer & runtime. This could end up being very expensive for very little (or no) gain.

          Also, I don't see V11 having compatibility problems with Windows 10 which (according to Microsoft) is what we'll be using for many years to come. Only problem we hit on a regular basis is when the Amyuni drivers used for PDFs and printing are changed during a windows update - we have to delete the Alpha printer and reinstall to go back to the correct version.


          • #6
            Re: Upgrade Quandary

            Actually you only need a valid subscription for AA if you intend to keep up with the updates. And since the desktop has not been updated in recent years, whatever version you have should continue to work.

            Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford


            • #7
              Re: Upgrade Quandary

              There acyually have been some updates in v12 over v11. they are scarce and probably nothing that would cause you issues.
              Dave Mason
              Skype is dave.mason46


              • #8
                Re: Upgrade Quandary

                We stopped upgrading our v12 desktop applications at build #4770. We found there were too many issues regarding the rendering of the forms. We are attempting to re-write our most important application as a browser application (using Alpha's latest release #6488) connected to a Microsoft SQL data base, but we are finding the work is slow-going. The upsizing to the data from DBFs to SQL was straightforward, but converting the forms to UXs has been challenging. I would be willing to forego some of the "responsive design" capabilities in exchange for a development environment that was more like the desktop.


                • #9
                  Re: Upgrade Quandary

                  I am trying to do the same only using the existing dbf files. The sets can't be used, but it seems that mapped tables should still work.

                  Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford