Re: v12 Release Notes
I think it's pointless to wast any time trying to get anything accomplished regarding desktop bugs. I don't believe it's on their agenda, unfortunately. (And it will be the $ doing the talking "sending the message home.") ~ I've submitted numerous bugs in January, and kept a thread documenting them for my reference. (and anyone else's reference who cares) Nearly half of the bugs I submitted were presumably ignored. (no response) I would love to be wrong on all this though. But as others have stated, I'm probably not.
"Alpha is very good at following up on bug reports. It's not uncommon for them to get fixed (or at least acknowledged) within a day or two." ~ Almost word for word from sales last spring when I renewed. (And to be honest, that's the way things used to be.) Note: I always ask how clean the new version is. I'm always told: "This one is much cleaner out of the box than the previous one." (And then I get the same old story above, almost as if it was scripted.) Unfortunately, I've never really experienced this. And my recent experience with reporting v.11 bugs (last month) led me to believe that many of the bugs were already "known", and that my efforts to document them had been viewed as a mere "annoyance." (So I gave up and now have reservations & resentment towards my choice in investing all this time learning, using & supporting their product.)
Honestly, I sadly think the best choice (for those who wish to pursue desktop development) may be to "just walk away" and look at other competitive products. (That's the underlying message I'm receiving from a lot of users here on the forum. Same thing goes for Alpha in terms of their recent responses to recent desktop related bug reports as indicated below.) ~ Regardless, Alpha (presumably) now wants to be know as an "enterprise solution" for larger companies. (I just can't see that happening. Not in today's world of MS shops on one side, and Linux servers on the other. But if it does, that would be great both Alpha, it's developers & the web side of their product! (Also, IMHO Microsoft is compromising it's own future with Windows-8 tiles gui. They were really on a roll with Windows-7. Windows-7 is probably one of, if not their greatest OS since DOS!)
PS: At this point, I'd be happy with "just fixes" too for a5 desktop. ~ I honestly thought that was a given with my subscription anyways... (And I was told it was when I renewed it.) I've also learned that if you want to be productive, it's good to wait at least 6 months before even touching the "most current version." (Or you'll become the "guinea pig" That used to be OK for me, as was learning the a5 desktop environment from the ground up. IMHO, struggling like that really forces you to learn the hard way, but the right way. But it also takes a ton of commitment.)
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"Alpha is very good at following up on bug reports. It's not uncommon for them to get fixed (or at least acknowledged) within a day or two." ~ Almost word for word from sales last spring when I renewed. (And to be honest, that's the way things used to be.) Note: I always ask how clean the new version is. I'm always told: "This one is much cleaner out of the box than the previous one." (And then I get the same old story above, almost as if it was scripted.) Unfortunately, I've never really experienced this. And my recent experience with reporting v.11 bugs (last month) led me to believe that many of the bugs were already "known", and that my efforts to document them had been viewed as a mere "annoyance." (So I gave up and now have reservations & resentment towards my choice in investing all this time learning, using & supporting their product.)
Honestly, I sadly think the best choice (for those who wish to pursue desktop development) may be to "just walk away" and look at other competitive products. (That's the underlying message I'm receiving from a lot of users here on the forum. Same thing goes for Alpha in terms of their recent responses to recent desktop related bug reports as indicated below.) ~ Regardless, Alpha (presumably) now wants to be know as an "enterprise solution" for larger companies. (I just can't see that happening. Not in today's world of MS shops on one side, and Linux servers on the other. But if it does, that would be great both Alpha, it's developers & the web side of their product! (Also, IMHO Microsoft is compromising it's own future with Windows-8 tiles gui. They were really on a roll with Windows-7. Windows-7 is probably one of, if not their greatest OS since DOS!)
PS: At this point, I'd be happy with "just fixes" too for a5 desktop. ~ I honestly thought that was a given with my subscription anyways... (And I was told it was when I renewed it.) I've also learned that if you want to be productive, it's good to wait at least 6 months before even touching the "most current version." (Or you'll become the "guinea pig" That used to be OK for me, as was learning the a5 desktop environment from the ground up. IMHO, struggling like that really forces you to learn the hard way, but the right way. But it also takes a ton of commitment.)
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