Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

[Charles Hoens]

I need a V11 Runtime license for a small not-for-profit organization.

Does anyone have one they might like to sell me?

Thanks.

Charlie

[Keith Hubert]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Hi Charles,

Have you tried [email protected] ?

[Charles Hoens]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Keith,

It's not important for you to respond to every post.

Think a little first.

[Keith Hubert]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Hi Charles,

It's not important for you to respond to every post.

Think a little first.

What are you on about? Think a little first, I'm not child learning how to cross the road. Also is there a quota of how many messages I am allowed to answer?

I do have a V11 Runtime licence, as do many other developers. It is not appropriate to sell on a licence, when it is still available from Alpha.

[bea2701]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Keith with all respect but why is not appropriate to sell a licence? there more post with the same request if you want to sell your lics AA has nothing to prevent that, why and how would AlphaSoftware manage that you own the lic because you paid. Further V11 is end of life if you buy that at the shop you bought a DOA, there no more updates since a long time.

[Al Buchholz]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Keith,

It's not important for you to respond to every post.

Think a little first.

Charles

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Hope your day improves.

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[bea2701]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Keith,

It's not important for you to respond to every post.

Think a little first.

There is peace and quiet on the forum that we want to keep it that way , Keith can do what he will correct without comment or comments, he is not a child and childish comments have no place on the forum. thank you!

[Keith Hubert]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Hi Eric,

why is not appropriate to sell a licence?

You don't own the licence and have no right to sell it on. See the licence agreement.

how would AlphaSoftware manage that you own the lic because you paid

What you have paid for is a licence to use the software. The same as you have a licence to drive on the road. You dont own the licence or even the road come to that. Yes that is a problem for all software houses how they manage unauthorised duplication.

Further V11 is end of life

If you can still buy it from Alpha, which I have done recently, then I would say that it is far from end of life. True there will probably be no more updates, but that does not mean what is available will not work, because it does.

I agree with Charles, "It's not important for you to respond to every post." No, it is not important to answer every post (which I dont), but when I do, I dont expect it to be thrown back in my face for having done so.

Looking forward to seeing you all at the Conference.

[bea2701]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Use the software see the agreeement if that is so i can't sell my apps, customers want the complete package, you can't say buy your own lic at. A lot of developers would be out of business. I think with use it means "please do not de-compile"

[Steve Wood]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Whether you can or cannot sell or transfer the license also depends upon local law. In the USA it was always legal to transfer (not sure about charging a fee) your software license - regardless of what the original issuer had to say about it. But a recent court case reversed that as a precedent. I am not sure about other parts of the world.

[DaveM]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Anyone can sell their license with alpha's approval. It has been done before and can be done in the future if they follow their same guides.

It would not be a good thing to sell a runtime license and continue to distribute applications with it. Just not right. It also is not right to let another developer to use your license.

I am not intending to develop anymore in v11, but have a number of completed apps in various places on the web that I sell or give away. I feel I should have everything redone in v12 and have all v11 apps off the web before giving up my v11 runtime(or any other) license.

Yes, we can sell or give away our apps. That is what runtime is all about. The wording is meant to say that we do not own the application and code in it, but we do have the right to distribute our apps with the runtime included.

If alpha has exception to what I said here, the would say something here or to me. If I have interpreted anything and they notify me, I will correct it here. If someone else takes exception to this, say so and I would rethink it.

I certainly agree with what Steve injected to a point. If one of us bought the runtime and we all shared it? That is not right.

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Other people have bought and sold Alpha licenses here on this board without controversy. I do agree it would be wrong for someone to sell an RT license to someone and then continue to use or distribute it, but at this point Charles is merely looking to see if someone can sell him an available RT license. And if some person did sell an RT to someone and then did continue to use it , the violation would then be on the seller, not the buyer. But it's pointless to speculate whether the seller or buyer may commit arson before the fact (not picking on you Charles - I'm quite sure you are not an arsonist or otherwise a nefarious person).

[Michael1954]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Charles

We have some licenses. I will be in Boston, I am happy to give them away in exchange for some xbasic help.
I would rather do this with Alpha's approval.

Michael

[DaveM]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

You don't own the licence and have no right to sell it on. See the licence agreement.

Wrong! You do have the right to sell if properly done!

You dont own the licence or even the road come to that. Yes that is a problem for all software houses how they manage unauthorised duplication.

Wrong! You purchased the rights to the license and therefore can do as you please with your ownership

Further V11 is end of life. If you can still buy it from Alpha, which I have done recently, then I would say that it is far from end of life. True there will probably be no more updates, but that does not mean what is available will not work, because it does.

Wrong! Alpha v11 is at the end of it's cycle. v12 is out and much better. Alpha is not supporting v11 anymore. Yes it is still usable for some projects as is v7, v8, etc.

Answering post does have the added need to try and clarify the question and then to give correct as possible answers. That helps everybody. Vague or incorrect answers can give one a bad reputation on this or any board.

[Keith Hubert]

Re: Does anyone have a V11 Runtime license to sell?

Hi Dave,

When was the last time you read the Licence Agreement?

Except as expressly provided in this AGREEMENT, you may not otherwise make copies of the Software Product or the printed materials accompanying the Software Product.

5. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. All title and intellectual property rights in and to the Software Product (including but not limited to any images, photographs, animations, video, audio, music, text, and "applets" incorporated into the Software Product), the accompanying printed materials, and any copies of the Software Product are owned by ALPHA or its suppliers. All title and intellectual property rights in and to the content that is not contained in the Software Product, but may be accessed through use of the Software Product, is the property of the respective content owners and may be protected by applicable copyright or other intellectual property laws and treaties

I'm sure you would not be happy to have one of your customers sell a copy of your application and you got nothing for it, however old it was.