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    Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

    I have a button the runs some scripts on-push.

    I wanted the button to only display under that the record needed to be saved.

    So I created a conditional object and placed the button inside it and set the condition to 'E'$topparent.command('?RECORD_COMMIT')

    This works great as the button shows when the record needs to be saved and does not when the record is saved.

    Here comes the weird stuff.

    When the button is inside the conditional object it will not function yet save the record even though it is not being asked too.

    When it is not inside the conditional object it work correctly.

    This leads me to believe that it is actually running 'E'$topparent.command('?RECORD_COMMIT') instead of just checking the status if the record needs to be saved.

    #2
    Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

    A sample please.
    Al Buchholz
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      #3
      Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

      It works correctly over here, setting up as you described.
      While editing the button appears, when pressed displays a timed message, as coded, then returns without committing.
      Def need your sample.

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        #4
        Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

        I will try and make a sample db when I get time in the next day or so as I would like to figure this out.

        But I found a work around. In other apps I have just used a fields OnChange event on a form to set the color of a button and then when it runs the scripts code in the script changes the button color back.

        In this app I am using a Browse Object which does not allow setting the OnChange event of a field on the form. I found I could just put the button color code in using the table field rules/events/Field Events/OnEditField



        Going back to the original issue I think the problem may be showing or not showing the button in a conditional object where the objects condition is based on if 'E'$topparent.command('?RECORD_COMMIT') is true or not and then having the first line of code in the buttons OnPush event save the form before running the next line. While this would change the condition of the object you would think the code in the OnPush event would continue to run until complete but it seems not.

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          #5
          Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

          Originally posted by preston2 View Post
          In this app I am using a Browse Object which does not allow setting the OnChange event of a field on the form.
          a field in the browse?

          It can have an onchange event. It's just a little different..

          http://www.alphasoftware.com/alphafo...l=1#post559353
          Last edited by Al Buchholz; 03-15-2015, 10:13 AM. Reason: late night typing - never a good idea.
          Al Buchholz
          Bookwood Systems, LTD
          Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

          Occam's Razor - KISS
          Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
          Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
          When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
          "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
          Albert Einstein

          http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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            #6
            Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

            Preston
            I went back to the form where I had hastily set up the test. It does now what you described. Go figure why it didn't at the time of setting up.
            And I get the reason. Moving the button outside of the conditional and clicking it also saves the browse record.
            My theory...perhaps
            Predictably so, simply by clicking any object outside of the embedded browse you remove focus from the embedded browse which triggers the record save.
            Why it may rarely work could be timing perhaps, if the button responds before the save has occurred.
            Last edited by Ray in Capetown; 03-15-2015, 04:51 AM. Reason: apologies, NOT Robert

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              #7
              Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

              Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
              a field in the browse?

              It can have an onchange event. It's just a little different..
              I'm trying to figure what this means, is it that by using a column event event you can restore a changed value? Or that you can cancel() the Edit?
              Last edited by Al Buchholz; 03-15-2015, 10:13 AM.

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                #8
                Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

                Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                I'm trying to figure what this means, is it that by using a column event event you can restore a changed value? Or that you can cancel() the Edit?
                Sorry, the onchange became unchange via poor typing skills.
                Al Buchholz
                Bookwood Systems, LTD
                Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                Occam's Razor - KISS
                Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                Albert Einstein

                http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                  #9
                  Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

                  That is funny, off I went in search of something new in column controls. Couldn't find anything, luckily.
                  I'm a bit slow finding the obvious, charge ahead half baked, like just yesterday I discovered for the very first time (dont laugh) the scrapbook tool. Now trying to work out how to close it.

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                    #10
                    Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

                    Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                    That is funny, off I went in search of something new in column controls. Couldn't find anything, luckily.
                    I'm a bit slow finding the obvious, charge ahead half baked, like just yesterday I discovered for the very first time (dont laugh) the scrapbook tool. Now trying to work out how to close it.
                    Did you do a cut and paste from the scrapbook with the menu options?

                    scrapbook.png

                    You can close A5...

                    If you open the code library first, then the scrapbook is within the code library...
                    Al Buchholz
                    Bookwood Systems, LTD
                    Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                    Occam's Razor - KISS
                    Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                    Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                    When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                    "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                    Albert Einstein

                    http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                      #11
                      Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

                      Correct, I lost the functionality of copy paste (ctrl C/V) so experimented with copy to scrapbook.

                      I see the option Code Library - will explore it - do you use it?

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                        #12
                        Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

                        Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                        Correct, I lost the functionality of copy paste (ctrl C/V) so experimented with copy to scrapbook.

                        I see the option Code Library - will explore it - do you use it?
                        Memory problem with ctrl-C/V?

                        No but I probably should.
                        Al Buchholz
                        Bookwood Systems, LTD
                        Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                        Occam's Razor - KISS
                        Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                        Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                        When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                        "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                        Albert Einstein

                        http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                          #13
                          Re: Alpha's strange behavior never ceases to amaze me.

                          Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
                          Memory problem with ctrl-C/V?.
                          If I copy some objects on a form and switch to another workspace and paste the objects then Cut and Paste stops working there and everywhere in Win 8. Until the A5 apps are closed
                          .

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