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    New Pricing structure

    COngratulations, guys! I think the new pricing structure offers tremendous flexibilty and a very good price point for PLatinum. I will be ordering my copy this weekend.

    Thanks again to Alpha for hearing us and addressing our concerns. You must've learned that from MS ;)


    Dave Volgas, MD
    David A. Volgas, MD

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    Re: New Pricing structure

    Certainly didn't address my concerns. Each application you develop for someone that uses Active Link tables will require it's own run engine.

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      #3
      Re: New Pricing structure

      Make that at least 2 happy people. Unfortunatly it is always hard to please everyone.
      Bill Griffin
      Parkell, Inc

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        #4
        Re: New Pricing structure

        That is a huge improvement, and the per site "custom" packages should keep everyone who dislikes the idea of needing per seat licenses when only a few are used at a time happy, too. I love that you can now add RTs up, this is a logical step and something that hopefully takes some confusion out of the licensing situation!

        While I have my developer copy, we are still needing at least one more so I will put forward the recommendation to get a smaller RT bundle for initial trials alongside his copy, as we may well be better off with a per site license once we have a clearer idea what our needs are user count-wise.

        Of course some will still not be happy, heck of course I'd prefer free runtimes or reusable ones but I do accept that the added power of active link tables (which in most cases can be limited to SOME users who need this, someone who creates their own reports and doesn't actually do data entry won't need them!) warranting a higher price, and the nature of Client Server apps (a full client server app, where only the SQL database is on the server and everything else is handled on the client) makes old style runtimes impossible to limit in user counts.

        It's funny all the "hype" about client server apps really - I mean yes this is very handy for us for some things, but we've been trying to move away from a full client server system for some time, since unless you run something via an application server a lot of things that require automation are a hassle to set up!
        Last edited by NoeticCC; 03-28-2008, 02:12 PM.

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          #5
          Re: New Pricing structure

          Originally posted by Tom Mills View Post
          Certainly didn't address my concerns. Each application you develop for someone that uses Active Link tables will require it's own run engine.
          Actually Tom - the new document (removed broken link)

          Has the following in it which I believe addresses your case.

          Run Engine OEM Licenses
          The Run Engine OEM License is appropriate if you have developed a "packaged" (off-the-shelf) application that requires Active-Link tables.
          Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 02:48 PM. Reason: removed broken link
          Richard Rabins
          Co Chairman
          Alpha Software

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            #6
            Re: New Pricing structure

            Great job on the pricing. Get Version 9 for DBF files just like prior versions. If you want to step up to SQL then the customer is going to have to pay for it which seems fair. Buy the way my company will more that likely have projects for both DBF and SQL platforms and I am agreeing with seat pricing for SQL.

            You also addressed a situation with SQL deployment where your seats will be much larger that active users, just call sales and see what you can work out for that specific situation.

            I am sure that you can not please everyone all the time.

            Jeff
            Jeff Ryder

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              #7
              Re: New Pricing structure

              Also CONGRATS on writing an easy to understand, comprehensive document on RT licensing! This seems to be something that has long been overdue and it's great to see this realise in just one week after the initial pricing structure went up! :D

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                Re: New Pricing structure

                Richard,
                Run Engine OEM Licenses
                The Run Engine OEM License is appropriate if you have developed a "packaged" (off-the-shelf) application that requires Active-Link tables.
                It sounds like the cost of this license is determined on a per application basis...but for those who may develope such applications there is a need to know (at least a ballpark figure) what the cost will be in advance....maybe with an example or so.

                BTW--a MUCH more useful Runtime scenario and also not ambiguous in the explanation.
                Mike
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                  #9
                  Re: New Pricing structure

                  Alpha has just regained the "trust" of the developer base. Richard, all those hours on the weekend will pay off with even greater expansion of V9.

                  Also, the explanation of the runtimes versus run engines is plain and simple to understand.

                  My congratulations to Richard, Selwyn and the Alpha Team for working on this problem and bringing it all home.

                  Tom Baker

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                    #10
                    Re: New Pricing structure

                    I can actually use Platinum for my organization. What has been eliminated for me and (developers that wanted to target small jobs) is the possibility of producing fairly inexpensive apps for other people that don't use dbfs.

                    And the world is moving away from dbf's in droves.

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                      #11
                      Re: New Pricing structure

                      I assume that Non Active Link Runtime installs will not require activation by the end user then?

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                        #12
                        Re: New Pricing structure

                        Originally posted by MikeC View Post
                        Richard,


                        It sounds like the cost of this license is determined on a per application basis...but for those who may develope such applications there is a need to know (at least a ballpark figure) what the cost will be in advance....maybe with an example or so.

                        BTW--a MUCH more useful Runtime scenario and also not ambiguous in the explanation.
                        Thanks Mike -

                        Re your question and Tom's

                        If you planning on building a "packaged" application that does use Active Links - just contact our sales folks at [email protected] for the costs on this (in advance if you like) - so you can plan accordingly. As I think we have demonstrated, we want our developers to succeed because it is in our mutual interests.

                        You will find that costs involved do not inhibit a small developer from building "packaged" applications that use Active-Link tables.
                        Richard Rabins
                        Co Chairman
                        Alpha Software

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                          #13
                          Re: New Pricing structure

                          Originally posted by Tim Sutherland View Post
                          I assume that Non Active Link Runtime installs will not require activation by the end user then?
                          That is correct Tim.
                          Richard Rabins
                          Co Chairman
                          Alpha Software

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                            #14
                            Re: New Pricing structure

                            Thanks - great job...

                            Ordering my bundle now...

                            Tim

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                              #15
                              Re: New Pricing structure

                              The problem isn't with packaged applications. It's just that low-cost custom applications against free databases like Access and MYSQL can't be done with Alpha now.

                              Low cost custom apps used to be Alpha's wheelhouse. Now they will have to continue to be done in dbf's and dbf's are dying out. That's why it was so important for Platinum to come out.

                              I understand. I pled my case and lost.

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