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    I am developing a database for a customer that has multiple case entries per client. The embedded browse does the job just fine on the form, but my customer doesn't like the way the browse displays the information. Being fairly new to A5, is it possible to display the information like a form, but show multiple cases? How can I get it to duplicate the fields? I know if I add duplicate/repetetive fields in the table structure I can get it to display how he wants it but I don't want to go that route if I don't have to.
    I checked the sample databases but couldn't see where I could duplicate this.

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    Re: Browse Alternative

    Hi Diana,

    What does your client not like about the browse? What would they like to see in the browse? How would they like to see multiple case entries?

    The only way I know of showing 1:N child records is in a browse, but you can change the style which might be more pleasing to their eye.
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      #3
      Re: Browse Alternative

      Has this customer shown you an example of some other program that does what they want? The reason a browse looks like it does is that displaying an unlimited number of related child records takes up screen space.

      What would a form that displayed 100 child records look like?
      There can be only one.

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        #4
        Re: Browse Alternative

        Originally posted by kyosadls View Post
        I am developing a database for a customer that has multiple case entries per client. The embedded browse does the job just fine on the form, but my customer doesn't like the way the browse displays the information. Being fairly new to A5, is it possible to display the information like a form, but show multiple cases? How can I get it to duplicate the fields? I know if I add duplicate/repetetive fields in the table structure I can get it to display how he wants it but I don't want to go that route if I don't have to.
        I checked the sample databases but couldn't see where I could duplicate this.
        Diana

        I'm having a hard time tracking what you are asking for...

        There are ways to make a multi line browse, but I'm not sure what you are looking for.

        Can you make/show something that is more visual?
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          #5
          Re: Browse Alternative

          Hi everyone, thank you for responding- especially so quickly. I'm guessing the client would like to see the fields in a more "form" tradition that has the fields horizontal:

          Last: Crissman First: Diana Middle: L
          Street: 110 Woodland Drive
          City: Sarver State: PA Zip: 16055
          Home Phone: Work Phone: Cell Phone:
          _________________________________________________________

          Last: Smith First: Sue Middle: L
          Street: 400 Milton Street
          City: Pittsburgh State: PA Zip: 15212
          Home Phone: Work Phone: Cell Phone:
          _________________________________________________________

          Last: Jones First: Joe Middle: L
          Street: 200 Lemon Lane
          City: Sarver State: PA Zip: 16055
          Home Phone: Work Phone: Cell Phone:
          _________________________________________________________

          I'm not sure how many there will be, either, but I would suspect no more than 10 per client at most. And they'd like to see all that are there, and have an ADD button when they need to add to the list.

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            #6
            Re: Browse Alternative

            Not sure, but you might be able to use a browse w. a calc field using the crlf() function (haven't tried this).

            e.g.

            "Last: " + trim(field1) + crlf() + "Street: " + trim(field2) + crlf() +"City: " + trim(field3) + crlf() + "Home Phone: " + trim(field4)

            Size the row height as needed.

            Edit:
            Tested it. Yup, she works!


            Also: I would make the browse read only.
            Last edited by Peter.Greulich; 12-15-2008, 03:49 PM.
            Peter
            AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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              #7
              Re: Browse Alternative

              Hi Peter, thanks for the input. Won't that still limit me to using a browse formation? I know my client isn't going to want to have to scroll to see the info, he's already said he wants it all on one screen. I created a form for that table in that set that is exactly how I know he'll want to view it, but how can I get it to append itself? I've attached a jpg of the screen.

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                #8
                Re: Browse Alternative

                Just talked to the customer, I'm going to need to do this for 3 other tables, and I need to build in the capability of up to 50 entries. I cannot imagine building the tables to accommodate the same group of fields 50 times - someone please tell me a way around this!

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                  #9
                  Re: Browse Alternative

                  What if.... I went ahead and put in the embedded browse and then, underneath the browse, the form I created would be inserted and when he clicks on a record in the browse it would display in the form...? Is that possible?

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                    #10
                    Re: Browse Alternative

                    Diana,

                    Someone is talking nonsense.

                    He wants the capability to have 50 records on screen and doesn't want to scroll? There's not enough room on screen to do that (the empty fields for unpopulated child records will have to be there).
                    There can be only one.

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                      #11
                      Re: Browse Alternative

                      Originally posted by kyosadls View Post
                      What if.... I went ahead and put in the embedded browse and then, underneath the browse, the form I created would be inserted and when he clicks on a record in the browse it would display in the form...? Is that possible?
                      You could code the onrowdblclick event for the browse to open a form based on the child table, opening to the current record. You could have a button in a cell of each browse row to open a form based on the child table, opening to the current record.
                      There can be only one.

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                        #12
                        Re: Browse Alternative

                        Have you looked at Forms - Report Preview Supercontrol ??

                        "The Report Preview Supercontrol allows you to draw a window on your Form and display reports, labels or letters in the window. The filter expression for the report that is displayed in the window can be based on data in the current record, so that when you navigate in the Form from one record to the next, the report shown in the window is automatically updated. The Report Preview Supercontrol is a great way to show related data to the current record. "

                        http://www.alphasoftware.com/alphafi...40000Forms.asp Link to video

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                          #13
                          Re: Browse Alternative

                          Frankly I don't understand why your customer wants to accomplish this all on a form so that he doesn't have to scroll in a browse. He's still going to have to scroll - but it will be the form. There is NO way that you can get 10 addresses all on one screen the way that your graphic shows without having to scroll the form. And then he wants you to make room for up to 50?????????

                          I can see this working but with hours of direct XBasic coding. You would have to handle all the management of the records that would need to be displayed, put all the extracted info into variables and then fill in your form. This will be a lot of work in my mind.

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                            #14
                            Re: Browse Alternative

                            Originally posted by Doug Page View Post
                            I can see this working but with hours of direct XBasic coding. You would have to handle all the management of the records that would need to be displayed, put all the extracted info into variables and then fill in your form. This will be a lot of work in my mind.
                            Peter Wayne has an example of exactly that on his web site (or at least he used to).
                            Peter
                            AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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                            https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                              #15
                              Re: Browse Alternative

                              Originally posted by kyosadls View Post
                              What if.... I went ahead and put in the embedded browse and then, underneath the browse, the form I created would be inserted and when he clicks on a record in the browse it would display in the form...? Is that possible?
                              Or, your embedded browse could just show last & first name, and the fields could be on the form to the right, available for editing. This is a fairly standard scenario. - Like the A5 Sports customer form example.
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                              [email protected]
                              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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