How to start alpha without login in.

[MikeData]

There is a login process in place. Is there a way to launch the program from an icon with the embeded name and password in it or the login takes priority?
Of course the name will have script attached, so specific work will be performed unattended.

[Bill Parker]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

Not sure what you are doing, but when I need an unattended operation I usually create a separate abd with the single purpose of running a scheduled script. This database is launched directly on the server, and the scheduled script can re-schedule itself so it continues to run unattended, maybe once a day.

Bill.

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

There is a login process in place. Is there a way to launch the program from an icon with the embeded name and password in it or the login takes priority?
Of course the name will have script attached, so specific work will be performed unattended.

If you are using the built in login, I don't think you can get around it(?). But, you can protect the application using your own self-designed login, and then your script keyed to your launch icon could be engineered to run. It's a bit of work, though - if your not familiar w. xbasic.

[MikeData]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

So by the response the answer is no. There is no way to add an icon with name and password to do a task.
There no issues of securities here Pete. The issue is to have certain task performed at night unattended.
The approach of Bill seems in that case the answer, another app linking the tables and doing the job without a login process.
Is that what you are referring?

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

So by the response the answer is no. There is no way to add an icon with name and password to do a task.

I thought I answered affirmative, no?

There no issues of securities here Pete. The issue is to have certain task performed at night unattended.

If you have a password, then you have a security issue, no?

[Bill Parker]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

The adb that runs the scheduled task could have security or not. It does not matter. The user will launch the database "attended", so they could log in if security is enabled.

Then the scheduled script will be launched, and the database will be left running. The last point is critical, because if the database is closed, the scheduled task is cancelled.

Since the database is left running, there is no need to log in when it is time for the script to run. That is also why the database is limited to very specific functions.

Bill.

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

The user will launch the database "attended", so they could log in if security is enabled.

Good point, Bill!

[MikeData]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

I thought I answered affirmative, no?

If you have a password, then you have a security issue, no?

Some times are very difficult to express what we mean in such short sentences. I was just commenting.
I am very grateful to the responses I get here in the forum. specially from fellows like you with such knowledge in the alpha world. So please do not misunderstand my response.

Security issues are there, but there are many reasons to it. I did not implied that were not. Just that were not that critical and the intent of carry an schedule work unattended was more important at this moment.

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

Some times are very difficult to express what we mean in such short sentences. I was just commenting.carry an schedule work unattended was more important at this moment.

No problem. Your questions stimulate many of us to think. ;)

[MikeData]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

Thanks!!

[Keith Hubert]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

Hi Mike,

specific work will be performed unattended

What is this specific work that you want to have performed unattended?

There could be another way to do what you want if I know what the task is?

[MikeData]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

The intent is to run some reports during the nigh time. Do some diagnostics of data entered during day time plus similar tasks.
In other programs I have created Artificial users in the program assign those users a task by menu or macros, then a shortcut in he desktop of the server with those names with password. Assign windows scheduler to run those shortcuts at specific time.
Very simple, very easy.
In alpha seems that the best way is to create additional programs link the tables and execute the programs without login, where each program will have a different startup or autoexec.
Unless some one can come up with a better approach., I have to create that lengthy process.

[MikeC]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

Hi Mike,
What is it that would take so long?? Just to experiment a bit I took a few minutes and used a current database---from a button I used a timer to activate the script, but other methods could be used am fairly certain....Windows scheduler as you mentioned and then in the autoexec of the program opened the script could be run, maybe file.watch(), script_schedule(), an add-on file watch program.....

The script loaded a different database, printed a report and then reopened the first database...don't even know if the latter is necessary in your case but wanted to try it. :)

There could be several tasks via the same script even and if placed into functions they should not "collide" as then they should process one at a time.

If more info is wanted I can help a bit--actual script is very simple (once made or seen that is!!).

dim path as c
path="E:\_Programming\Alpha5\Alpha How-To\choices_MikeW\Choices.adb"
dim path_orig as c
path_orig="E:\_ProdCode8\_Prod_Code8.adb"
a5.load(path)
xbasic_wait_for_idle()
'print_report("ck_box_size")
report.print("ck_box_size")
'preview_report("ck_box_size")
a5.Load(path_orig)

[MikeData]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

a5.load(path)
xbasic_wait_for_idle()
report.print("ck_box_size")
a5.Load(path_orig)

Wow, I see new toys to experiment. I do not know to use them.
I am new to scripting( I only start using alpha 3 week ago), so I will check them in the manual sources.
I'll have to play with them. As a matter of fact, I could use them in other projects yet to develop.

Thanks that is a great alternative.

[MikeC]

Re: How to start alpha without login in.

Mike,
That is what is also hard for some of us who answer questions is knowing or guessing the ability level of someone who asks a question. You'll notice in the small script I used I left in two commented out lines (lines with a single quote in front ' ). These are alternatives I used--one for print and one for preview. I believe there is yet one more way to print also but didn't bother using it.

Let us know if further aid is needed, but try the help search and especially the messageboard search feature as most questions have been asked at one time or another (and so search ALL of the boards--don't limit your search)....just hard to find them is all at times!

Let us know how you accomplished your goal and post back when you do also as then this thread would be another good reference for someone else later on.

Have fun!