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    Copy form from one adb to another?

    Is it possible to copy a form design from one adb to another? I haven't been able to do this and it would be quite valuable to do so. Perhaps I am missing something. The same table exists in both databases.
    Regards,
    Chet Sapino
    President,
    SAPINO Enterprises
    6451 Pheasant Rd
    East Syracuse, NY 13057

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    Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

    I haven't been able to do this
    Not sure what you might have tried.

    I have found that if you add the destination table to the database containing the source table, the copy process will always succeed. After the copy, drop the destination table.
    There can be only one.

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      #3
      Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

      I'm not talking about copying a TABLE form one adb to another. I know how to do that. Just do table import.

      I'm talking about copying a FORM from one adb to another - both containing the same tables.

      I opened up two instances of Alpha and tried to cut and paste a Form. It can't be done that way.
      Regards,
      Chet Sapino
      President,
      SAPINO Enterprises
      6451 Pheasant Rd
      East Syracuse, NY 13057

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        #4
        Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

        Originally posted by Chet Sapino View Post
        Is it possible to copy a form design from one adb to another? I haven't been able to do this and it would be quite valuable to do so. Perhaps I am missing something. The same table exists in both databases.
        There are a couple of ways to do this.

        1. make a table (I call it transfer) and put a single field in the table.

        copy the form to the transfer table and then copy the transfer table to the other adb. Then the form can be copied to the desired table.

        2. Use Jim Chapman's export object utility to make a .abn of the form and then import it into the target.

        You can find the utility in the archive forum.
        Al Buchholz
        Bookwood Systems, LTD
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          #5
          Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

          Thanks for the info.
          Regards,
          Chet Sapino
          President,
          SAPINO Enterprises
          6451 Pheasant Rd
          East Syracuse, NY 13057

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            #6
            Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

            Originally posted by Chet Sapino View Post
            I'm not talking about copying a TABLE form one adb to another. I know how to do that. Just do table import.

            I'm talking about copying a FORM from one adb to another - both containing the same tables.

            I opened up two instances of Alpha and tried to cut and paste a Form. It can't be done that way.
            I think you have misunderstood Stan's suggestion. He did not say to copy a table. He said to add the table.

            You also said "I'm talking about copying a FORM from one adb to another ". Forms are not stored in the adb of the database. Forms are stored in the dictionary (ddd,ddm,ddx) of the table.

            To flesh out Stan's suggestion.
            Right click the whitespace of the table/set tab of the control panel and choose add table.
            Navigate to the destination table(presumably in another folder.) and continue the proces to add the table.
            You will probably (unless you have previously turned it off) get a notice about adding tables from 'foriegn' folders. Read it if you want.
            Once the table is added you can then go to the Forms tab and right click the form and use 'Copy to...' to copy to the added table.
            When finished drop the table from the current database.

            While typing this I remembered a short cut to the above procedure.
            On the Forms tab right click the form and choose 'Copy to...'.
            Scroll to the very bottom of the table list and you will find an entry called, <More...> , choose that.

            A dialog will open allowing you to navigate to the destination table. Choose your table and follow the prompts.
            Tim Kiebert
            Eagle Creek Citrus
            A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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              #7
              Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

              Tim's suggestion is the one I use alot. There is at the top of the copy to dialog <more...> which will get you to browse for other databases. The only problem with this is I have never been able to make this work for a form based upon a set. I posted several help crys years back for this, and have tried it recently and have never personally had it work, or had anyone respond that they have been successful copying forms based on sets. Based on single table, this works like a charm.
              Mike W
              __________________________
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                #8
                Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                Mike,

                I just tried it in good ol' Alphasports. (I have lots of copies of that). I copied the invoice form which is based on the invoice.set.

                When you go through the Copy to and the file dialog opens after choosing <More...> you can at the bottom of the dialog choose Sets (*.set) in the 'Files of type:' field.

                Have you perhaps missed that one?
                Tim Kiebert
                Eagle Creek Citrus
                A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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                  #9
                  Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                  Got it. Thanks a lot.
                  Regards,
                  Chet Sapino
                  President,
                  SAPINO Enterprises
                  6451 Pheasant Rd
                  East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                    #10
                    Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                    Originally posted by Chet Sapino View Post
                    Is it possible to copy a form design from one adb to another? I haven't been able to do this and it would be quite valuable to do so. Perhaps I am missing something. The same table exists in both databases.
                    Chet

                    Are you moving to another computer that is not on the network with the original computer? ie a cleint or another developer in a remote location?
                    Al Buchholz
                    Bookwood Systems, LTD
                    Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                    Occam's Razor - KISS
                    Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                    Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                    When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                    "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                    Albert Einstein

                    http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                      #11
                      Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                      No. On the same computer.

                      I have it figured out. If I simply do an "Add Table" everything that is associated with that table including it's form is imported. So I end up with two forms. The original and the imported form. I then simple delete the original form and the original table.
                      Regards,
                      Chet Sapino
                      President,
                      SAPINO Enterprises
                      6451 Pheasant Rd
                      East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                        #12
                        Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                        Chet,
                        I then simple delete the original form and the original table.
                        Using this method may introduce more problems down the line. If you now look at your tables/sets tab in your control panel using the detail view, you will now have this table referenced from a different folder....portability is just one issue that this will affect.

                        A better route is as Tim stated--
                        You will probably (unless you have previously turned it off) get a notice about adding tables from 'foriegn' folders. Read it if you want.
                        Once the table is added you can then go to the Forms tab and right click the form and use 'Copy to...' to copy to the added table.
                        When finished drop the table from the current database.
                        This way the table will still be within your database. If you truly want the new table then follow a similar method by duplicating the new table and then DROPPING (do NOT delete) the referenced table you brought in. If deleted it will be deleted from the other database.
                        Mike
                        __________________________________________
                        It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                        It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                        Henry David Thoreau
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                          #13
                          Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                          >Using this method may introduce more problems down the line.


                          I found this out the hard way!

                          Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
                          Regards,
                          Chet Sapino
                          President,
                          SAPINO Enterprises
                          6451 Pheasant Rd
                          East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                            #14
                            Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                            Way too many responses to seemingly a simple question so I will allow for the possibility that I am missing something.

                            Without spending a whole lot of time reading down the thread, is there any reason why you can't right click the form then choose copy to?
                            You could copy it to any table in any database.
                            Granted if the destination table has different field names, you will get error messages which is easily corrected.

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                              #15
                              Re: Copy form from one adb to another?

                              Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
                              is there any reason why you can't right click the form then choose copy to?
                              You could copy it to any table in any database.
                              If I am not mistaken, at least in v8, and/or v7 (can't remember), "copy to" would fail when trying to paste into another adb. Thus, the need to temporarily add the table/set to your current adb, use "copy to" and then drop said table/set.
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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