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Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

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    Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

    I am considering upgrading to v.9

    I have my laptop & desktop networked.

    Will I be able to install v.9 on both computers?

    I won't be using the program at the same time. But there will be times I will want to work on my laptop, instead of my desktop.

    Thanks.

    Carol

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    Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

    This is from the Guide to Alpha Five versions. Out of date as to the version number (8) but not as to the installation guidelines.

    Alpha Five Version 8 License Information
    Each Alpha Five Version 8 license allows for 2 activations. This means that a single user license allows you to install the software on 2 computers, as long as they are not networked together. This allows for you to install the software on your office and home computer, or desktop and laptop computer. This policy applies the same to any multiple pack licenses too, which means a 3-user license will allow for 6 activations etc.
    There can be only one.

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      #3
      Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

      Originally posted by cbauer50 View Post
      ...Will I be able to install v.9 on both computers?....
      Yes.

      Whether you should upgrade to v9 is an entirely different question. If you could get v8 I'd say yes. V9, no! V10, maybe. Just a biased opinion, take it for what it is worth.

      Raymond Lyons

      Edit: Now I see Stan's post. I think you would find that as long as you are not using the same database on the network at the same time, the two activated computers can be on the same network. Although I do not do it, I see no reason, legal or otherwise, why you can't do it.
      Last edited by Raymond Lyons; 08-09-2009, 12:58 PM.

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        Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

        Hmm - I am interested in why you say that.

        Are you saying I can't do it in v.9?


        Originally posted by Raymond Lyons View Post
        Yes.

        Whether you should upgrade to v9 is an entirely different question. If you could get v8 I'd say yes. V9, no! V10, maybe. Just a biased opinion, take it for what it is worth.

        Raymond Lyons

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          #5
          Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

          You can do what you are talking about in v8, v9 and presumably (maybe?) in v10. It's just that in my not so humble opinion v9 is...what?, kind of like MS Vista, as of this time a very flawed version unless they fix a bunch of bugs in another v9 patch, which I doubt is going to happen. Now I am sure others will disagree about v9 and say it is wonderful. Maybe they are right and I am wrong. If you can't get v8 somehow (privately I suppose from another user), I'd wait for v10.

          Raymond Lyons

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            #6
            Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

            Does v.8 look similar to v.9?

            Is there somewhere I can compare the 2?

            Thanks.

            Carol

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              Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

              The "look" is very similar. Arguably the main desktop difference is that v8 has only passive links to SQL tables whereas v9 has both passive and active links and a lot more capability for working with SQL tables. If you do not need any of that, v8 is more trouble free at this point. That is not to say that v9 does not have many other functions and features that v8 does not have. But these other things are hardly revolutionary and v9 still has a number of bugs, many of which will have fixes that presumably will appear only in v10 even though they have already been fixed in what could be another v9 patch.

              Of course you could get v9 and have whatever money you spend on that applied to an upgrade to v10. Just don't be tempted to stick with v9, which would be less expensive. And for desktop purposes I suspect that v8 would be a very good if not better alternative if someone were willing to sell their v8 license (and assuming Alpha would cooperate with that).

              Raymond Lyons

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                #8
                Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                Carol, the move from vers 4 to vers 5 of Alpha 5 was a big jump. Many new features and capabilities. The transition was troublesome for some because of a few changes that occurred. These changes will have to be made regardless of which later versioni you move to. Suggest you peruse the posts in the A5v5 forum for details. I think the major difference is the syntax for declaring and then referencing arrays. Parentheses are not used any more.

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                  Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                  In my opinion, I would go with V8 just because of the bugs in V9that aren't likely to get fixed with another patch. I think you could get a full copy on ebay and the v8 upgrades are still available for download.

                  On the other hand, if you want to upgrade to V10, as I understand it, you must already have V9. That's why Alpha is basically giving away V9. I got mine free from Alpha because I have V8. If you buy V9 outright, it's very cheap. Perhaps others here have a better understanding of what is required to upgrade to V10 from a previous version and will correct me if I'm wrong.

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                    Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                    All --

                    I suppose it all depends on what features one uses. We have a desktop application that is not using any of the SQL capabilities. We found that Version 9 fixed a number of problems we identified in Version 8, and the most recent build (2095) has generally been fine. Occasionally an application gets "messed up", but compacting or restarting it usually sorts out the problem. All bugs we have found in Version 9 that we could duplicate have been fixed. In my opinion, Version 9 is faster than Version 8 and has more features.

                    -- Dick James

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                      #11
                      Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                      I agree about V9 features because you guys are so far more advanced in Alpha use than I am but I don't need most of those features. So you go with whatever you need.

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                        Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                        Isn't there an activation key that is needed if I buy a "used" version? How is that handled?

                        I would be willing to go with v.8 if I could find one for sale, but am concerned about the activation key (which I understand is different from the serial #).

                        Thanks.

                        Carol

                        <<Of course you could get v9 and have whatever money you spend on that applied to an upgrade to v10. Just don't be tempted to stick with v9, which would be less expensive. And for desktop purposes I suspect that v8 would be a very good if not better alternative if someone were willing to sell their v8 license (and assuming Alpha would cooperate with that).>>

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                          Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                          Isn't there an activation key that is needed if I buy a "used" version? How is that handled?
                          As Alpha is offering a discount of the purchase price of V9 towards the purchase of V10 for current buyers of V9 and indicating that you can sell/give the V9 license to someone else, there has to be some procedure for transfering licenses. It would seem likely that the owner of a V8 license could uninstall V8, notify Alpha to reset the license count, inform you of the license number, and you're set.

                          Whether Alpha needs to know about the transfer or not is another question. The availablility of V8 in such a scenario is the unknown. I suppose there are a number of folks who purchased V8 and never pursued it. Finding those people might be difficult.
                          There can be only one.

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                            #14
                            Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                            Hope I'm not repeating anyone's comment...

                            One of the good things about Alpha is that they are still 'real people' with first names!! and therefore not tied to process like other larger organizations.

                            So if you think that $99 is a reasonable price to pay, why not email them and offer to pay for v9 (at the low pricing being offered and with all the v10 upgrade options too) but be given a v8 license.

                            Unless I'm missing something...
                            Kind Regards
                            Alan

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                              #15
                              Re: Upgrade - A5v4 to A5v9

                              Carol,
                              It seems that Alpha may still be selling v8 as well...more expensive than v9 though.

                              try this link--

                              (removed broken link)
                              Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 01:42 PM. Reason: removed broken link
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