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    #1

    Document management application?

    Is there any samples of a document management applications? File & Folder management, Auto naming etc...
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    Steven McLean
    i3 Home Inspections
    [email protected]
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    Re: Document management application?

    You have not given much detail, but this sort of thing is able to be done with xbasic but I am not aware of a sample database or code.
    I used Alpha to do some fancy Word merging and then automatically save the document in a clients folder and make it readily available to re-open from within Alpha via a standard "File open" dialogue that started in the clients folder.

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      #3
      Re: Document management application?

      Steve,

      This would be really neat functionality.

      But I think it would require the following:

      1. Hierarchical tree/grid control
      2. Drag and drop capabilities
      3. Horizontal and vertical splitter bars

      Most such applications (evens Windows explorer) allow the navigation using a tree structure, and the better ones use a hierarchical grid which can display multiple fields and allow the expansion and collapse of individual folers.

      No one on this forum has been able to satisfactorily explain to me why Alpha Five can not accomodate Drag and Drop. But how are you going to move a document from one folder to another easily?

      Finally, if you display both the tree and the Word ro PDF document on the screen you probably would like to be able to enlarge or reduce the document display at will. You need a splitter bar like that found in MS Explorer or Outlook, but not available in Alpha Five. I've played with three different splitter bar ActiveX controls, all of which work with MS Access or Visual Studio, but you guessed it, none of them work with Alpha Five.

      All of this functionality that is needed to build a capable document management application has been already added to the Wish list, some by me, some by others.

      In my mind, document management should be a slam dunk capability just like email and calendaring/scheduloing. While there is a rather expenive third party Word viewer ActiveX control on the market, is is only one piece of the solution. 999.00 USD http://www.anydraw.com 999.00 USD)

      Bob McGaffic
      Pittsburgh, PA

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        Re: Document management application?

        Hi Bob, I agree with you I don't understand the lack of drag and drop as it is BASIC windows functionality. The lack of a REAL GRID also mystifies me. All in all I was disappointed in what we saw in desktop enhancements at the conference. I guess the "Cloud" is clouding their vision!

        Alpha is stable and fast, but I think I need to explore other avenues. As we are a Law Firm, Browser based solutions are not an option.
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        Steven McLean
        i3 Home Inspections
        [email protected]

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          #5
          Re: Document management application?

          Umm, I opening a can of worms here, but:

          With A5v10, drag & drop can be done. I have an example using web-side tools. And, now that web-tools can be put on the desktop, well, you know.

          As soon as I can, I want to build out the drag & drop example well enough that others can understand and use it.
          -Steve
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            #6
            Re: Document management application?

            Hi Steve, when you say WEB controls can be used on the desktop, are you referring to embedding the control in xdialog and embedding xdialog on a form? That seems more like a work around than a development paradigm. I am interested to see what you come up with.
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            Steven McLean
            i3 Home Inspections
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              Re: Document management application?

              Originally posted by StevenMcLean View Post
              when you say WEB controls can be used on the desktop, are you referring to embedding the control in xdialog and embedding xdialog on a form? That seems more like a work around than a development paradigm.
              I guess it depends upon how you look at it. Grid->xdialog->form is straightforward enough to my mind. Alpha is cleverly leveraging their web development effort and porting it to the desktop. Not a bad deal to my mind. If you think of traditional Alpha form constructs such as subform->form, form/conditional object, form by expression->form and browse by expression->form, those methods would typically not be thought of as "work arounds". By that measure, neither is embedding the former - to my mind anyway.
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

               [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                Re: Document management application?

                Steve,

                I am very much intrigued by your suggestion that V10 will support drag and drop.

                Could you share with forum members a jing video of how you were able to move documents from one node to another node in a hierarchical tree a la Windows Explorer or Microsoft Outlook. Or sample code, etc.

                In my mind this would be a real breakthrough.

                I'm holding out for the "official" release of v10, but I did not have any success with a crude document management application I tried to build using V9.

                All I was trying to do was emulate the behavior of some commercial applicaiton software. This is REAL WORLD functionality that Alpha needs to address. It seems to me that this is best treated like Alpha email, the basic functionality is in place and all you have to do is hook it up to your application.

                If what you say is true, it is a MAJOR, MAJOR enhancement to Alpha Five.

                Bob McGaffic
                Pittsburgh, PA

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                  Re: Document management application?

                  It just so happens that I have a small jing video I used to share this with a couple other consultants. This is crude stuff, no sound, and the targets aren't/don't look like folders, but with some work, I believe can be built into what's being discussed here.

                  Guess something just got put a little higher on my list of things to do.

                  I had to zip it to post it here because .swf isn't a valid extension for the upload manager on this board.

                  Enjoy.
                  -Steve
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