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    Newbie Variety of Questions

    It has been, many years, sadly since I have visited these forums! But I am delighted that it is still running and the software (possibly) still valid and I hope supported well.

    I am hoping that someone might be able to help with my queries or verify some of the following please ! :)

    I bought some of the very early versions of the AlphaFive software with Web Application Licence from the beginning!
    However through personal bereavements (& so on) I never got the time to get started ! However I kept upgrading hoping to get going ... I am almost at the point of finally getting started ! Yeah! :)

    I now have version 9 with Web Application licence.

    My plan is (as it always has been), to get an online database that users can update themselves, that will auto update onto my systems (live or at certain intervals). Each entry or listing will have around 400 options in all, and I expect to eventually have around 250,000 individual and business listings. Many will have several contacts and addresses.

    1) I am assuming that this aim is still possible to do with v9 and the web licence ?

    2) I am using Win 7 and a top quality laptop, so assuming that v9 will run smoothly and I should expect any particular software problems or difficulties in it's running and functioning ? i.e. no one has had major bugs or issues ?

    3) Since transferring the software to my latest laptop it now wants a licence number - how can I obtain this please, as mine is in my other office (somewhere)?
    I have had to move everything and no idea where I put it. Plus much paperwork is now damaged / ruined, and it may not be around any more! The old laptop may not work either and I am currently at my new (2nd) location and unable to try! ?
    (I've tried directly sending an online request to Alphafive for this, but their webpage form is constantly throwing up errors, and an old email address I tried failed too!)

    4) Am I right in thinking that Alphasoftware is still linked to Alphafive, or have they split please?

    5) Can I still get help in here or where-ever, to help get me started, and to develop the software to my needs as I go along ?
    (My last version had included some free tutorials and free 'get started' help, but I'm not sure if this is even still possible let along available! ?)

    6) Are the latest versions 'much improved/better' or 'easier to work' than v9?

    7) Might anyone, be interested in my older versions? (All downloaded with all their own license numbers but I might only find a few of those numbers! However Alpha5 ought to be able to supply new one's I would have thought?)

    #2
    Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

    I will attempt to answer.
    1. Yes you can do that with V9. There is no restriction as long as you have your original licenses.
    2. V9 will run on up to but not including Win8.1, and will not run if you have Internet Explorer 11. You would need to upgrade to Alpha Anywhere to develop on Win8.1/IE11 machines.
    3. If you cannot find it you will have to contact Alpha sales for your license. What web page is blowing up? You can try this hard to find page to login, but you would need to know your login credentials.
    4. Alpha Software still owns Alpha Five (V6,7,8,9,1,11, etc.) but you won't find any current support for those older versions. You can find support for legacy versions on this forum or at iadn.com.
    5. Yes this is the best place for free help but put your posts in the appropriate V9 forum. V9 is so much different than V11 or Anywhere.
    6. Much improved yes, easier - not sure about that. The latest is a quantum leap in features, genies and are of course geared to where the world is today. V9 is "old". Latest can be much harder in fact because there is more to chew on.
    7. Typically long time developers are looking for RUNTIME and Web App Server licenses, but not the Developer. Alpha generally has no problem with you selling them, at least they have never balked, but neither you or the buyer is going to get support from Alpha on those older versions.
    Steve Wood
    See my profile on IADN

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      #3
      Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

      I am going to act like I did not see Steve's great answers and give my view of your questions.

      1) I am assuming that this aim is still possible to do with v9 and the web licence ?
      Yes it is.

      2) I am using Win 7 and a top quality laptop, so assuming that v9 will run smoothly and I should expect any particular software problems or difficulties in it's running and functioning ? i.e. no one has had major bugs or issues ?
      It will run fine on win 7. I prefer win8, but might have a few small glitches with alpha5 V9. Note there may be small first time settings needed and be sure you are the administrator. If you run into it, just ask here.

      3) Since transferring the software to my latest laptop it now wants a licence number - how can I obtain this please, as mine is in my other office (somewhere)?
      I have had to move everything and no idea where I put it. Plus much paperwork is now damaged / ruined, and it may not be around any more! The old laptop may not work either and I am currently at my new (2nd) location and unable to try! ?
      (I've tried directly sending an online request to Alphafive for this, but their webpage form is constantly throwing up errors, and an old email address I tried failed too!)
      As Steve directed you. There will be a license number for the software and a separate one for the application server

      4) Am I right in thinking that Alphasoftware is still linked to Alphafive, or have they split please?
      Alpha Software is the company and alpha 5v12 is the newest offering.

      5) Can I still get help in here or where-ever, to help get me started, and to develop the software to my needs as I go along ?
      (My last version had included some free tutorials and free 'get started' help, but I'm not sure if this is even still possible let along available! ?)
      This is where I generally come for help and been using alpha for 25+- years.

      6) Are the latest versions 'much improved/better' or 'easier to work' than v9?
      Easier? No More to it? Yes. There may be a lot of stuff you desire in later versions that were not included in v9. If I were going to build a web app starting right now with alpha, I would get the latest version. It works well in win7 and 8.1. There are just features that are not there in the older versions and with people doing more tablets and phones??? The other is that it can probably stay alive and useable quite a while longer.

      7) Might anyone, be interested in my older versions? (All downloaded with all their own license numbers but I might only find a few of those numbers! However Alpha5 ought to be able to supply new one's I would have thought?)
      There are developers that would like your v9 and back that want something not quite as expensive to start with or to move from alpha4. The runtimes are the most precious commodity for older versions that had different rules, but runtimes do have their own license numbers for the desktop. Some of the old versions do not bode well on the newer systems and it is getting worse for the dos people.


      By the way, there is a separate area for web side and desktop. This is in desktop.
      Good Luck.
      Dave Mason
      [email protected]
      Skype is dave.mason46

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        #4
        Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

        Thanks very much for your most informative answers. They are all a great help. :D
        I also had a call from a chap who recalled a previous conversation and amazingly still had my number! :) Wow thank you too! :)

        After some considerations about versions I think since Alpha Anywhere demands SO much money I am going to have to try and work with v9 for the time being. Although when Alpha answer (so far nothing but it is the weekend) :) I will see how much the v12 might be. As I recall the Web License simply carried over from version to version. I will have written down all the licence numbers I just don't recall where they all are ... I lost a years email with no back up at one point and at least one might have been in that but I write everything down so I do have hope that it maybe somewhere! :) However as stated previously I'm not at that location at this time so it will have to wait.
        I will have a more extensive search for this versions licence and for any later versions too. I gather that Brett is still at A s/w so having sent him an email too when the other failed and bounced back I hope he will get in touch soon.

        I am delighted that it is still running and have now found the fb page and various Youtube recordings.
        I recall that there were online tutorials too but are these still happening or recorded so that I might download them from somewhere please? Does anyone know ?
        Yes I have realised that there is a web app and a dt forum although at the moment I hoped that the dt is the right place for this post ? :)
        I hope to make up a basic db first and then try and make it web based but some way to go before then! :D And probably about 1000 questions! :D

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          #5
          Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

          The reason I suggested webside waus the whole gist of your first post was about web type functionality. If others are to access your application from the web, you may wish to do web. If others are to access your app from within your company on a lan, DT may be better.

          I do Desktop primarily and yes, some can get to the app from out side the confines. It is not ideal for the web though.
          Dave Mason
          [email protected]
          Skype is dave.mason46

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            #6
            Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

            Yep and thanks. I think as I see this as taking me months to really get into then dt was a good place to start. It will be a while before I get to the Web App part! :)
            I am pleased to say that I have now had a call from Alpha and in a while I hope that I will upgrade to v11 with a possibility to v12 in about a year... Having discussed prices (always advised) the upgrade won't be as pricey as I'd feared.
            Having manged to establish when I purchased v9 Platinum I found the original email (Oh thank Goodness) and got the licence! Yeeah! :D Cool. So I'm set to get started soon!
            So I will be back in a while with various questions - or in the Web bit! :) Thanks to all ! Most appreciated. Look forward to getting started! :D

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              #7
              Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

              A different point but I can't see how to contact the forum Admin ?
              I can't reply to PM's nor to I seem to have permissions to send new PM's etc ? Can someone check this please and get back to me? Thank you. Claire :D

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                #8
                Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                Claire,
                If your app will be web, I would suggest you completely skip DT altogether. What you learn will mostly be useless on the web.
                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                  #9
                  Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                  OK :) ty.

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                    #10
                    Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                    https://forum.alphasoftware.com/forum/showgroups.php
                    There can be only one.

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                      #11
                      Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                      Does it not irk you to see .php at the end of an address to alphas forum?
                      Dave Mason
                      [email protected]
                      Skype is dave.mason46

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                        #12
                        Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                        Heavens, no. I doubt any of us could build an equivalent to vBulletin or Simple Machines (what I use) and then give it away for free.
                        Steve Wood
                        See my profile on IADN

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                          #13
                          Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                          I use phpbb that can be almost like this one.
                          Agree with steve. I would not want the job of creating any of them either.
                          Vbulletin is not free from what I saw.
                          Dave Mason
                          [email protected]
                          Skype is dave.mason46

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                            #14
                            Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                            Thanks Stan that's interesting and helpful. But I still don't know why I can't send a PM - or is that the list of how to successfully send one ? I think I'm missing something ? :)

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                              #15
                              Re: Newbie Variety of Questions

                              Claire,
                              I think something is not clicked in your profile. I can't pm to you.
                              Dave Mason
                              [email protected]
                              Skype is dave.mason46

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