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    jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

    I found Jerry Brightbill's article in the recent A5 news letter interesting and informative, and I believe that it may explain why I have had trouble accessing data in columns with long names using the foxPro odbc driver. The problem may well be that the columns that I am trying to access actually have a different name than what appears in the "Edit Structure" interface. Jerry explains that dbf-type tables can not support column names greater than 10 (or was it 8) characters, and that a translation list exists for long names in the table's data dictionary. This translation table could be a great resource for those of us trying to access A5 using an odbc driver. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find this trnaslation table.

    I was able to look at the data dictionary for the table I was interested in by copying the table.ddd and table.ddm to a temp directory and changing their file extensions to .dbf and .fpt respectively. Using A5, the new table.dbf opened up, and I looked in the memo fields (where the article says the translation table for long names should reside), but I was not able to find it. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks,

    -Bill

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    RE: jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

    Bill

    The dbf limit is 10 characters. The "translation table" is actually a list in the ddm file which you probably can see with a generic file viewer. Actually, your method will show the entry if you also convert the ddx to cdx. This links the memo to the table.

    The best solution is stick to 10 characters or less always. Creates many fewer problems.

    Jerry

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      RE: jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

      Thanks for your response Jerry. I agree that sticking to 10 characters or less is a great idea - making all the changes (references to column names) would be difficult at this point.

      I will try renaming the .ddx to .cdx and see if this helps. I was able to view some of the memo field data by simply re-naming the first two files, but maybe I'm missing something. If I can't get to the LONG_NAME_OF_COLUMN = LONG_NAM1 list this way, you believe that the .ddm file can be opened in a text editor like note pad? Or did I missunderstand. Thanks,

      -Bill

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        RE: jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

        Jerry:

        I tried renaming the .ddx to .cdx but got the same results as before. (In my previous attempt, A5 had simply created a similar .cdx file when I opened my newly created (re-named) table. What sort of file viewer did you use to view the translation info for long names and are you sure it was in the .ddm file? Thanks for any help.

        -Bill

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          RE: jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

          Jerry:

          I tried opening the .ddm file with word pad and note pad but the many special characters in the file make it diffiicult to interperet. Is there a file viewer you recommend? Thanks in advance.

          -Bill

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            RE: jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

            First backup, backup, backup. Opening the data dictionary is NOT AN OPERATION FOR A NOVICE as you can do considerable damage to your existing tables if you make ANY errors.

            Now, if you want to go into the data dictionary and pull out information, I would strongly suggest making a copy of the originals and moving the copies temporarily to a different directory. Then change both the name and extension of the files. Otherwise, you WILL overwrite the existing dbf and cdx files with unpleasant results. For example, if you want to look at the info for the customers table, rename customers.ddd to customers1.dbf, rename the ddm to the same name with a fpt extension, and the ddx with a cdx extension. Now add the dbf to a database and open normally. If you open the table in default browse, check out the contents_m field. That is where you will find the list if there is one. Whatever you do, do NOT modify the original files.

            Jerry

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              RE: jerry brightbill's article in the news letter

              Jerry:

              Thanks for the above, and let me assure you: you are preaching to the choir. I only fool around with copies located in their own directories. In this case, I followed the steps you outline above and found a table with 5 columns. They were called: Name C:24, Type C:4, Contents_C C:64, Contents_M M:10, and Vendor M:10. The table whose data dictionary this was created from contains several columns with titles that are greater than 10 characters. The new table (created from the data dictionary) had 10 records. In rec_no() 1's contents_M (memo) field there was a list of the 12 column titles (separated by semi colons) that exist in the original table, but no equivalent short titles. The list appears (copied and pasted) as follows:

              PHOTOG_ID;PHOTOG_STAFF;PHOTOG_NAME;JOB;TRANSACTION_TYPE;CHARGES;PERCENT;ENTITY_ID;TRNS_NU;EXCEPTION;PICTURE;PIC_ID;

              In the third record of the data dictionary table's contents_m field the following appears:

              Job=Job;Trans=Trans;

              But there is no reference to an alternative, internally used name for the column "TRANSACTION_TYPE," for example. Is this list stored somewhere else? Or am I misunderstanding something? It would be extreemly helpful to find that list, as it would make accessing A5 data much easier with the FoxPro odbc driver.

              Thanks for any help.

              _Bill

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