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    #1

    Importing other table types

    I'm new to Alpha 5.

    I can't seem to find a way to convert/import other database table types. Surely there is a tool or a way, but I can't find it. Any help?

    Thanks,

    Jim
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    RE: Importing other table types

    What type of table type are you trying to import? On the main Alpha Five File menu you will see an Import item. Using the import Genie you can import ASCII, Excel and 1-2-3 files. Using the ODBC Import, you can import any ODBC data source.

    -Lenny

    Lenny Forziati
    Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
    Alpha Software Corporation

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      #3
      RE: Importing other table types

      Lenny,

      Thanks for responding.

      For the moment I will want to import Paradox files, but others like dbf's and csv's will come.

      I see no import item on the File menu, only New . . ., Open . . . and Close Database. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

      after reading the "Getting started with alpha five" it says there is such a Genie, but it doesn't appear on the menu, or anyplace else that I can find.

      Thanks,

      Jim

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        #4
        RE: Importing other table types

        Import is on the File Menu when the control panel is displayed.

        -- tom

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          #5
          RE: Importing other table types

          Jim,

          You must create a database before you can import tables - a database is simply a collection of tables, forms, reports, code, etc. Click on New to create your new database, specify a name and then you'll see the Import option on thr File menu.

          Additionally, there is no need to import DBF files since this is the native Alpha Five format. Instead you can just add them to your database. Once you have created your database, you will be looking at the Control Panel. While you're looking at the Tables/Sets tab of the control panel, the Table menu has an option Add Table/Set.

          -Lenny

          Lenny Forziati
          Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
          Alpha Software Corporation

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            #6
            RE: Importing other table types

            Jim

            First you create an Alpha 5 database, then you import the other data.

            After you create an Alpha 5 database the file menu choices will look like the attached image.

            Hope that helps.
            Al Buchholz
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              #7
              RE: Importing other table types

              I'm going to take a stab this summer at converting a Paradox 4.5 (DOS) application to A5V5 (which I haven't even bought yet). Any words of wisdom that you care to pass along?
              Bruce Cavenaile

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                #8
                RE: Importing other table types

                Bruce,

                I haven't used Paradox 4.5, so I don't really know if the Paradox data storage format can be read by Alpha, or at least imported into Alpha 5, but I would GUESS that it can.

                Step 1 - buy Alpha 5 (sorry, I couldn't resist saying that)
                Step 2 - print all the Paradox documentation that you can.
                Step 3 - print screenshots of all the forms, menus, reports, etc., that you can and make extensive notes on them.
                Step 4 - import (or convert) one table at a time, then make sure that the data is as you want it.
                Step 5 - create any necessary sets.
                Step 6 - duplicate the forms.
                Step 7 - duplicate the reports and any other components that you need.
                Step 8 - kick back and enjoy!!

                Welcome to the Alpha community.

                Dave
                Dave Jampole
                www.customalpha.com

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                  #9
                  RE: Importing other table types

                  Hello:

                  I haven't used Paradox in years but this will be as easy as it can get. Open Paradox and then save your Paradox DB data files as DBF files. Then you can use them as is in Alpha Five without going through an export/import procedure.

                  Robert T

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                    #10
                    RE: Importing other table types

                    Bruce,

                    I'd advise you to start small. Do one piece at a time. Learning how the interface works, and then how to control it, will be a large part of your learning curve, since you will discover that you already know how the data model works. (tables, sets, indexes, expressions, functions, they'll all feel very familiar to you).

                    -- tom

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                      #11
                      RE: Importing other table types

                      It's on my Sidekick to take care of Step 1 this coming Monday. Since Paradox 4.5 can export to dBase III file format, I should be o.k. Thanks for the comments.

                      Bruce
                      Bruce Cavenaile

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                        #12
                        RE: Importing other table types

                        Do you recall if forms/reports get exported to th4e dBase III file format?

                        Bruce
                        Bruce Cavenaile

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                          #13
                          RE: Importing other table types

                          The ability to record scripts in Alpha Five is the main reason that I am converting to it. That is how I taught myself PAL programming in Paradox 4.5 - also a big reason I was unable to move up into Paradox for Windows (recording was removed from the program).

                          As you say, I'll start with tiny steps. Thanks.

                          Bruce
                          Bruce Cavenaile

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                            #14
                            RE: Importing other table types

                            It will also export to dBase IV format. Use it instead of dBase III.

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                              #15
                              RE: Importing other table types

                              Bruce:

                              It's been years since I worked in Paradox for DOS but I think it's safe to say you can completely forget about forms, reports, and/or any scripts you created in Paradox. Be thankful you can quickly and easily save your Paradox data into the DBF format.

                              In fact, it's probably a blessing in disguise because now you will be forced to learn how to create Alpha Five Forms and Reports.

                              Robert T

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