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    #16
    RE: License violation on single station.

    John,

    sounds like your accounting app works like Alpha Five. You can use it to open multiple forms, within the same databse, also. With new features added to Version 5 I think it's possible now to switch between databases, in a single Alpha session.

    What Steve wanted to do is different. He wants to start two separate Alpha Sessions on the same machine, and use them to work with a single shared database.

    As for Word, I think you'll find that it's not possible to open muliple instances and work with a single shared document. As I say, this is what Steve was interested in doing.

    -- tom

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      #17
      RE: License violation on single station.

      Ken

      From the current form,

      File, Open, only forms attached to the current set are displayed.

      Yes, I can go to the control panel & select a form, report etc, but would never allow a user to do this. Would want to be under control of a menu.

      Additionally, If I select from the control panel, do what I want & close, returns to to CP not the last process I was running. Must start over again. NOT GOOD

      See my response to Tom Cone

      John

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        #18
        RE: License violation on single station.

        Tom

        For clarification,

        I have a main menu into which the user enters a system # to operate on. This number usually defines a building. Once entered the user is free to navigate throughout the various tables & sets, reports, forms etc. goverened by the system # always returning to to a sub or main menu. Some tables/sets are independant from the system # and this is no problem.

        The problem occurs when a customer calls about another system # (Building). Ideally you want to start another thread NOT another instance of A5, with the same menu,(but in a different workspace) do your business, close & return to the first thread.

        Difficult to explain because each thread is concurrent & transparent to the user. I can't say how are FoxPro accounting system handles it except that only one instance of FoxPro is visible to the user, whie many unrelated threads are open & working simultaneously.

        Clear as Mud ?

        John

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          #19
          RE: License violation on single station.

          FWIW

          I can confirm that in WordPerfect, there can be mulitple documents open at one time. I can even open the same document multiple times. I can make changes in the other instances of the same document but only the first instance can save any changes.

          WP will not let you open multiple sessions of WP itself.

          kenn
          TYVM :) kenn

          Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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            #20
            RE: License violation on single station.

            OK, Now I'm begining to understand. You want the user to opem multiple instances of the same form/s. That is diferent than opening another instance of the app or at least what I thought when this thread began.

            If, for example, from the main menu, you click the button to take you to a system # (building) and while working on that, a call comes in and you need to go to a different system#, you would have to have a button on that form to open another instance of the form. Maybe it won't work, I've not tried it. Is that what you need to do?

            Just guessing.

            kenn
            TYVM :) kenn

            Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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              #21
              RE: License violation on single station.

              Kenn

              Kinda sorta but without the button.

              While leaving the current thread intact, open another independant instance of the menu (new thread NOT another copy of A5) do what you want and return to the first thread. The second thread may be closed or left open.

              In our accounting app (FoxPro), each open process appears as a window and you may toggle between them. Functionally it is the same as multiple users accessing the same or different data but on one machine & with only one instance of A5 open. I should state that our accounting app is client server not peer to peer. Perhaps this makes the distinction ?

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                #22
                RE: License violation on single station.

                You cannot place a button on a form and open that form in a 2nd instance. You can place a button on a form to return to the menu and then open that form leaving the first form open but unseen. The problem, however, is 2 fold. Toggling between the two and making sure there were no open forms when retreating. Alpha does not show what forms are open like it does in design view, if you choose to view that particular bar.

                I think what you want can be done but it will take some Xbasic cause it will need to create a bar or a popup window to contain buttons to return to or toggle to the form.

                kenn
                TYVM :) kenn

                Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                  #23
                  RE: License violation on single station.

                  If you want to allow users access to multiple copies of forms you need to write code appropriatley. A5 will generate code that references fields on the form by the form name (4.5 did, anyway). In my app I have code that checks if the form is open and then activates that open session, rather than opens a new session. I did this as if code was crashing if I opened a second instance of the form. But it can work just fine, so long as you set it up with this in mind.

                  You then allow access to your main form from any screen. Several options here - create a menu bar with "Main Menu" on it, create buttons to check if the Menu form you use is open and activate it.

                  Then the user is able to access the main menu and start new sessions at will.

                  I don't have time, but this would be a good opportunity for someone to make a simple demonstration app. and it would be a useful addition to the Code Archive.

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