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    #1

    One toolbar and menu to rule them all

    Hi, all.

    Is there a way to create just one toolbar and drop-down menu that will stay up regardless of what form, browse, query mode, etc. is active? Instead of tweaking all those system menus and toolbars.
    Jim
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    #2
    Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

    Create your toolbar/menu then add them to all your forms.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

     [email protected]
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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      #3
      Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

      Jose,

      Are you trying to get a tool bar that would dynamically change depending on what form/browse you are using?


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      Dave Mason
      [email protected]
      Skype is dave.mason46

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        #4
        Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

        If you just edit the system menus and toolbars they will remain as the default selection for your forms, then you don't have to assign anything different.
        Robin

        Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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          #5
          Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

          Thanks for all the replies.

          I want the same toolbar and menu on top regardless of which layout or query mode is up, like Microsoft Word has. (It only grays out those options that aren't applicable to what's on display.) It seems from the help file that the way to do it is to edit all the system toolbars and menus so they'd look the same. I'd been wondering if there was another, more straightforward way to do it. I guess not.
          Jim

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            #6
            Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

            Just a thought.

            Have you tried ui_popup_menu() on buttons where you can gray out or change the output?

            .
            Dave Mason
            [email protected]
            Skype is dave.mason46

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              #7
              Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

              Hi, Dave.

              Looked up the function you mentioned. It looks real interesting, but it looks like it involves customized Xdialog, which I am definitely not conversant with. And my question has more to do with a drop-down menu (as it is called in the help file), which would be plastered just under the main A5 title bar.

              Another thing I'm concerned about, which is by no means a big deal, is the fact that, whenever you move from one layout type to another (e.g., from browse to form to QBF to print preview), Alpha Five actually changes the toolbar and menu bar each time, even if I have made them look all the same for all layouts. Wouldn't that result in an unsightly flicker, at least on slower computers, as the toolbar and menu bar are changed?

              Is there a "master toolbar" or a "master drop-down menu" that will override whatever toolbar/menu is assigned to individual layouts? That will stay as rock-steady as the main title bar, or like the window bar in show() mode?
              Last edited by jmatienza; 06-09-2008, 08:12 PM.
              Jim

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                #8
                Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                Jim,
                It sounds like you want your own custom menu to appear which can be assigned as the default menu in each of your forms' properties. Are you meaning something other than this?
                Robin

                Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                  #9
                  Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                  Robin,

                  Not exactly. That would mean having to tweak each and every system menu and toolbar so that they all look and act the same. That's not bad, but I'm thinking of something that (1) you only need to define once, and (2) that wouldn't need to go and then reappear every time you open another layout.

                  To use an analogy, you've heard of global variables? Well, this is a globar toolbar and a global menu bar I'm thinking about. It would be up for as long as you have Alpha Five open.

                  Sorry I'm having a hard time describing it clearly!
                  Jim

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                    #10
                    Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                    Jim,
                    I (and others) understand what you are saying but I have a feeling you are not understanding what has been said completely. As Robin said, define ONE menu, and ONE toolbar if wanted. That is it...all you have to do is to use these individual menu or toolbar as the only ones that will replace the system ones.....but yes, you do have to initially (and only ONE time) go into each form and change the default system menu and toolbars to the ones you created. They will be listed in the dropdown once created. If the question is how can you do this part all at once, then you are correct and cannot be done with Alpha (maybe Cal's Addons??). If this is not what you want then I also do not have a clue! :)


                    Mike
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                    It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                    It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                    Henry David Thoreau
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                      #11
                      Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                      Mike,

                      Thanks for the clarification and the attached image, which was very helpful. Yes, I see what you're saying. I became fixated on the system toolbars, of which there are several depending on the context. But, yes, I can define just one (non-system) toolbar and assign that to each layout and each context. But while it's possible to define it only once, you have to assign it many times during the design of each layout, as you noted:

                      Originally posted by MikeC View Post
                      you do have to initially (and only ONE time) go into each form and change the default system menu and toolbars to the ones you created. They will be listed in the dropdown once created. If the question is how can you do this part all at once, then you are correct and cannot be done with Alpha (maybe Cal's Addons??)
                      In addition, there is the matter of the toolbar having to be redrawn each time you switch to another layout. It would be nice to have the option of "define once, assign once" throughout the entire app; to have a toolbar/menu "nailed down", so to speak. We can set master passwords and global variables, so why not a master menu or a global toolbar option?
                      Jim

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                        #12
                        Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                        But while it's possible to define it only once, you have to assign it many times during the design of each layout, as you noted
                        How is this different than setting any other object property? A5 does what you want, you just have to spend a few minutes and implement it.
                        Peter
                        AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                         [email protected]
                        https://www.alphabasesolutions.com

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                          #13
                          Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                          Jim,
                          You can also use a stand alone toolbar like the one in Alpha Sports' navigator bar. I use this feature and it is always present once opened with no repainting. I put only bitmap buttons on it to keep it narrow.

                          Also notice in Mike's screenshot that the system menus and toolbars are the default choice. If you edit these without copying then they will appear without having to be assigned.
                          Last edited by MoGrace; 06-10-2008, 10:44 AM.
                          Robin

                          Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                            #14
                            Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                            I've started using this design for desktop applications. Narrow menu down the left, with submenus that swap out. The code for any submenu is simple, it closes the current one, and opens the requested menu:

                            ui_modeless_dlg_close("NavMain")
                            a5_toolbar_open("NavMaint",.t.)

                            The code to open any menu item is just the Action Script to open a Form. I force the whole application to operate full-screen (only one form visible at a time) for simplicity.
                            Steve Wood
                            See my profile on IADN

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                              #15
                              Re: One toolbar and menu to rule them all

                              You cheated Steve that has to be a ver 8 app!
                              Robin

                              Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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