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Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

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    #16
    RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

    I think the point is that large customers result in large (and often very unreasonable) demands.

    For example, the company I work for has a couple very large customers. One of them recently told us that $250,000 in prototype parts was "just the cost of doing business" and they were NOT going to pay for them. (No problem - it will only take about 6-8 months of production to repay and we can just cut everyones salary during that time!) They also demanded that we run a test which will take 3 months of continuous running on 12 test stands even though we can prove to any reasonable engineer that we can accomplish the same thing in 2 weeks - another $150,000+ down the tube. I've also spent many full days at meetings that I had to take an airplane to get to (literally) where I only had about 5 minutes of minimal input and received no other value from the meeting - BUT, the customer DEMANDED our attendance. (I could have sent them the charts since they were already familiar with the issue.) On top of all this, they expect us to cut our prices 5% every year because of "efficiency improvements" in the plant - after all, we've only been building our product for about 100 years so we still have a lot to learn about the best manufacturing methods!

    When dealing with a large company, there is a chance to make big $$. There is also a chance for many large headaches and a lot of additional expenses. And, if you are about the go bankrupt the big company will probably just find someone else and claim that you didn't know how to run your business.

    One reason I'm trying to get into database development full time is so that I can get away from that lunacy. I don't wish it on anyone.

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      #17
      RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

      Go for it!

      Just let Selwyn stay on track with version 5, version 6, bug fixes for v 4.5, and producing the wonderful database product that can provide solutions to any number of as yet unforseen needs, and not get sucked into feeding one massive specialty database monster that is written with cutting edge code to solve it's unique needs and would be eating at Selwyn for THEIR needs, not mine (and yours).

      PS your competition is also MYOB, Peachtree, Mas90, DacEasy, ....

      Personally I have much more fun figuring and building a membership database for my contractors association that tracks involvements, meetings, etc etc. I don't know of any other packages that can do exactly what mine does. Last night I met with a landscape consultant and his partner whose software I bought (now $999 for the estimating tool, $299 for the budget tool, $499 for the Bid board tool (=job tracking). I have rewritten the budget and estimator in Alpha, added a billing and job costing tool, added a time tracking and employee management tool and want to share the development. I am going to demo it to them next week. These are software solutions that are simply not invented yet. And Alpha Five 4.0 solves them beautifully. Maybe I could make some money!

      But NOT if Selwyn and his crew are feeding an Intuit sized money megalomania!

      Let me know when yours is ready and I will definitely offer it as an alternative! We could integrate each others products.

      Steve

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        #18
        RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

        The true point is Quickbooks does one thing - across the board. Lots and lots of units the same.

        An Alpha Five database can do many many things, each one unique.

        If my app were truly worthy it would be rewritten in a heartbeat into C++ and leave me looking for another problem to solve with my Alpha Five skills. I honestly fantasized calling Intuit and saying, you know, if you tweaked your product here, here, and over there - your product would be so much more powerful! My MBA brothers in law (I have two) straightened me out. And now I see Intuit is well aware of the opportunity, which is why the opening of the API's. And it lets them stick to their knitting and not get wiped out by some Konoff Knockoff!! ;-)

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          #19
          RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

          As I see it, the only thing we should hope for is that Alpha provides the ability to make the XML requests that "Quickbooks" will soon support. After that it is up to the developer to use this ability to integrate a particluar application to the Quickbooks accounting engine. I would welcome someone like Ira or another sophisticated Alpha developer to create functions within Alpha that would allow Alpha data to interact with specific Quickbooks data objects. I would be more than happy to pay for the use of these functions. Whether or not you are a fan of Quickbooks really does not matter. The fact is that there is an enormous number of Quickbooks users out there and many of these users have unsolved business needs. The versatility and development speed of Alpha coupled with the ability to integrate with Quickbooks could present developers with many new opportunities.

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            #20
            RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

            For some more info:

            http://developer.intuit.com

            Some of the documentation/overviews are _interesting_. I may have it
            all wrong, but the part about the fee for being a registered developer
            and able to list your applications on the Intuit site and the fact that
            they are examining certification makes me see COW (Cash Cow, that is)

            Dan

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              #21
              RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

              I agree with all the points about large customers making unreasonable demands and I�ve experienced them. Fortunately, not to the extent that Cal�s described. I�ll say this too, I�ve made the decision to not let my company or employee�s get yanked around and have fired a customer because of their unreasonable demands. So I do see you points.

              I guess my point in all this is, the reason why I posted my original half-witted suggestion, are the answers to the following questions.

              Is A5 a good/great product? Does the next version sound like it�s going to be killer? I hear that there�s a client-server edition coming out thereafter, is that something that would be a great addition to A5? Does the current staff & ownership appear to be �deeply� committed to the products quality, and longevity?

              Yep, yep, yep, and yep. (Let me change the �.� To an �!�)

              I�m not as brilliant with using the product and finding solutions to questions (I�m way down there on the list, probably on the bottom) as many who participate in these boards, but it is vastly apparent even to me that it�s a great product that is only going to improve. With the improvements that are coming down the line I really don�t see any way that anybody will be able to keep the lid on this product. I can�t believe it�s not more popular now. Really, that perplexes me. So while it�s a great product for developers who develop for clients and for people like me who develop for their own use, the secret will eventually come out that A5 is very good (becoming better & more stable), and its� popularity will grow. And sooner or later, and Stephen it won�t be a Konoff Knockoff as I indicated that was for the �sake of conversation�, I don�t think it is unlikely that somebody will use it a basis for a well known product with a large distribution, maybe nationally.

              Also, with the Internet and connectivity to it being so important, I�d bet there are plans in the future for added Internet connectivity via A5. (Email capability is in A5-V5.)

              To me the question isn�t �when� or �if� it will become well known or used as a basis for a well known product, but rather, �who will be able to resist using it for those purposes�?

              Mike
              Thank you,
              Mike Konoff

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                #22
                RE: Quickbooks link for accounting with A5

                Mike-
                I started my application for me, but the the more I look around the more I think my app has the potential to be a national level product. That is why I am talking to the consultants whose work I have employed. If it is to be truly valuable it has to be part of a total package of solutions - not just the number cruncher, but you need to sell the business model also. And here I am with a little 10 person company doing $500K landscaping. It would be over a million if I got off this computer more... I can't supply that whole enchilada.

                Ira, John et al-
                It seems Intuit is winning, and I will most likely switch back to Intuit with the next upgrade because of the XML links and as John says a set of Alpha Five functions would be worth my investment. I do not want to write them myself as I do not have the time or skills to do it fast enough.

                Indeed, I think the lack of these functions could be a serious liability for Alpha Software since it would leverage the product. And if Alpha isn't leveraged Access and FilePro will. And this is one piece Alpha Software wouldn't have to produce - it would be an ideal third party app, like Bill Parkers A5Doc. Perhaps we could put the job out for contract? ;-)

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