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    #31
    RE: Alpha Developers

    I wouldn't do EITHER of those things. I find it hard to believe there are more than 3 or 4 of those people that really need the developer edition.

    Have them buy a 3 or 5 pack, and pay a fee to you to improve the product, a fee that will pay a good portion of the $1600.

    These people aren't your only A5 client are they?

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      #32
      RE: Alpha Developers

      Tom,

      Thanks for the feedback.

      I am open to suggestions, so let me restate the problem.

      23 users on a Network. I need at least 3 of them to have full access to code and make changes. The other users must have the ability to create custom reports.

      If I buy 5 (5 user network packs)at $1250, That's $6250.
      Does that handle what I need them to do?

      Am I thinking right, or is there another solution?

      Thanks,
      Melvin

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        #33
        RE: Alpha Developers

        Hi Robert,
        I've looked in the Archive for the article, "A Concurrent Licensing System for A5 Applications", by Tom Cone, and can not find it. Can you help me out, here?
        Thanks,
        Wanda

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          #34
          RE: Alpha Developers



          Melvin,

          The answer might depend on what you mean by custom reports.

          Runtime users must use report and label layouts designed with the full version. However, the design permits the layout to use the 'currently selected records'. If your users need only to have the ability to sort, filter, and query their data to extract the correct subsets for any given report, and they can make do with the layouts built by the development folks, they'll be just fine with the runtime version. If, on the other hand, they all need the ability to create or edit the report layouts themselves, then the runtime won't work for them.

          -- tom

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            #35
            RE: Alpha Developers

            It's at learn alpha.com. Check out http://www.learn alpha.com/ConcurrentLicensing/licensing.htm.

            -Lenny

            Lenny Forziati
            Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
            Alpha Software Corporation

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              #36
              RE: Alpha Developers

              Thanks, Lenny :)

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                #37
                RE: Alpha Developers

                Tom,

                To be specific, yes, they do need the ability to create their own ad hoc reports. That was one of the selling points when I quoted a system for them. In all honesty, they still call me back to design new custom reports for a fee, but I would hate to tell them they could no longer design their own reports.

                If you also consider that I have now moved physically further away from them, it complicates things more. It used to be easy for me to go 'on site' and fix a known problem using live data. But now if something arises, I would have to consider using a program such as Carbon Copy, or PC Anywhere to help diagnose. Then I would
                have to fix locally and download a new runtime (if I go that route). If they have the developer version, it would make things easier, but more expensive.

                Melvin

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                  #38
                  RE: Alpha Developers

                  By definition, using text files is not a database. True, you could use ADO, but writing in C/C++ is a much much more time consuming endeavour.
                  Aaron Brown
                  Alpha Software Development Team

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                    #39
                    RE: Alpha Developers

                    I hate mondays. I need a beer!

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                      #40
                      RE: Alpha Developers


                      Melvin,

                      That's interesting. In my own work I have learned 'the hard way' that it's best NOT to give the end users the development version. It's too easy for the ones that are curious to do serious damage to my systems. -- tom

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                        #41
                        RE: Alpha Developers

                        HUH??? If you like beer, ya ought to love Mondays!!

                        ~(:>)
                        TYVM :) kenn

                        Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                          #42
                          RE: Alpha Developers

                          Oh contrare, Kenn...Beer and Mondays NEVER go together UNLESS you like football...

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                            #43
                            RE: Alpha Developers

                            Tom,
                            I would setup terminal services and then you can make the changes.
                            I would then install crystal reports and let them go crazy with writing all the reports they want. It's that simple. You can even purchase crystal reports enterprise version and have all the reporting do over the web.
                            This way, your client does not have spend that much and with the savings, you can buy crystal reports. As a side note, if Alpha changes the system again, crystal will continue to function without changing anything.
                            Greg

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                              #44
                              RE: Alpha Developers

                              My note should have been addressed to Melvin...sorry.

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                                #45
                                RE: Alpha Developers

                                Another side note: Terminal Services is free with Windows 2000 professional/ XP/ and Windows.net. I'm running Windows.net and we have many users logged into it. I also make many programming changes at night (with a beer) using terminal services and Alpha 5 V5. Alpha flys over terminal services...its great.
                                Greg

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