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Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

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  • Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

    I am building an app in A5 that will handle a common small government business process. I have tried to normalize the database to the 3rd level. Nothing is perfect in normalization but I am reasonably close.

    I currently have some 17 tables, in the database and 6 sets. I currently have some 15 forms, I will be adding a a couple more to deal with the financial transactions; not to mention a number or reports.

    Given the stage of development I am at with application it is doing everything I want, though it is far from finished.

    This seems like a 'boatload of stuff' but is this common for an A5 project? I know not all apps are equal but being new to A5 if I need to go back to the design process now is the time.

    Finally, is there way to see all the application code at once without having to open each script and layout and event?

    Thanks,
    Regards,

    John W.
    www.CustomReportWriters.net

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    Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

    You can print all scripts saved to the code tab from the code tab. Right click in the blank area.

    You can save to text file (then print that) all code for a layout from the Code Explorer. Open a form in design mode, View menu, Code explorer.
    There can be only one.

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    • #3
      Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

      Stan - Thanks again ... I wonder when I will ever be able to repay all the help everyone is giving me. I owe so many people so much
      Regards,

      John W.
      www.CustomReportWriters.net

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      • #4
        Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

        I should have mentioned that you can save all your scripts, funtions, etc from the code tab, not just print. I'm sure you store adequate backups of your database but saving these text files is another good insurance policy.
        There can be only one.

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        • #5
          Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

          I do regularly back up my db, I am kind of a nervous Nellie when it comes to losing code. Adding this to my backups is a great idea and something I will incorporate. I really don't like losing my working code or objects.

          As an aside I did print the code to a file and look through it. Reading it helps me learn the A5 code, so I like being able to do that periodically. It also gives me a chance to scheme out a way that may be a better way of coding a solution.

          I also used the Code Explorer it will serve its purpose but I was looking to have a page with all the events and not have to go from event to event. Its quibbling and not a real problem. I will leave it as a 'personal problem' I have and need to sort out and not an A5 issue.
          Regards,

          John W.
          www.CustomReportWriters.net

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          • #6
            Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

            If you leave <All Events> selected you will get the code for all events. No need to select each event in turn.
            There can be only one.

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            • #7
              Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

              John, A5Doc is worth it's weight in gold.
              See our Hybrid Option here;
              https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


              There are 3 things you can do in any situation;
              Live with it, Change it or Walk away from it.

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              • #8
                Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

                Ted - I will look into A5Doc I have not seen a link to it for awhile but I will search the AlphaSoftware website. In the short term I will try to improve my own documentation process.

                Stan - the 'All Events' is a good tip

                Thanks to both of you.
                Regards,

                John W.
                www.CustomReportWriters.net

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                • #9
                  Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

                  Hi John,
                  This seems like a 'boatload of stuff' but is this common for an A5 project?
                  I would not say so. I have a smallish project which has 60 tables, 21 sets, 29 forms and 36 reports. But who's counting?
                  Regards
                  Keith Hubert
                  Alpha Guild Member
                  London.
                  KHDB Management Systems
                  Skype = keith.hubert


                  For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

                    Keith - I guess its the way the A5 shows the pieces of the project. I did look at the AlphaSports sample database and while I did not count the number of control panel objects, mine is very small in comparison. My fear is getting lost in my own project and not being able to troubleshoot problems.

                    I am thinking that investing in A5Doc may be a good way to go. I have looked at it and it seems to be a nice utility and worth the money.
                    Regards,

                    John W.
                    www.CustomReportWriters.net

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                    • #11
                      Re: Am I going about this app design all wrong and viewing application code ?

                      it seems to be a nice utility and worth the money
                      It is on both counts.
                      Regards
                      Keith Hubert
                      Alpha Guild Member
                      London.
                      KHDB Management Systems
                      Skype = keith.hubert


                      For your day-to-day Needs, you Need an Alpha Database!

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